It you are truly concerned about the fire endurance rating, look around and buy an older "real" safe. Some are incredibly heavy - but also more durable then the "el cheapos" I see all over the place at a consumer level.
I've had a problem with safe gun storage when I'm away from home. My concerns are fire AND theft. After seeing how cheaply any safes I looked at were - I looked around for a "real" safe. It didn't take long to find one. I picked up a Mosler that a local hospital kept drugs in. Probably a 50-60 year-old safe. 6 feet tall and 3 feet wide. Has a four-hour 1700F fire-rating. Paid $500 for it. Worst part was moving it. We took the door off to make it a little lighter and my wife and I could not even carry the door. I suspect it weighs 1/2 a ton. Needs a concrete floor - or a heavily reinforced floor. It was quite a project to get it into my house - with come-alongs, skids, etc.
Once inside, I looked online for instructions on how to change the combination. I was amazed at how much safe-info this is on the Web. I've got 40 guns in it now -along with some other valuables. When I had the door apart to change the combo - I found that it is almost completely filled with some sort of concrete. No wonder we couldn't carry it.
In regard to the fire ratings - it's done with items like wood and paper. If a safe is rated for 30 minutes at 1200 degrees F - that means in a hour -some items get destroyed. So if fire is your concern, you have to guess how long the part of the house could burn (where the safe is) before completely gone. I suspect much depends on how high, or low you have the safe in the house. I have ours in a single-story addition so I know it can never burn for four hours. Not enough combustibles there to last that long.
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