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Posted by Jack a on June 29, 2012 at 08:11:00 from (129.176.151.11):

In Reply to: resonding to old post.....your choice of a 90-100 hp in 70's posted by Jack a on June 25, 2012 at 21:41:19:

oldtanker said: (quoted from post at 07:01:46 06/29/12) Jack, I work the harvest in 73. With the big crews that we were around all of em were JD or MF equiped. Plus living at Ft Riley Ks 3 different times (74-76) (78-80) and (93-96) I never saw a large custom crew move through with anything in the 74-80 time frame that wasn't JD or MF. In the 93-96 era you saw some of the crews with CaseIH. I'm not talking about farmer doing some custom work here. I'm talking about guys who made most if not all of their money working the trail IH did not survive, they were bought out and the only reason Case kept the IH name was brand loyalty. Most of the Farmers in our area though of the AC's as being a poor 2nd choice and even though the dealership in Parkers was great they were not well liked up here after they changed over to the D series. I know of one farmer north of Alexandria, one near Wadena and my BIL currently farming with AC's. I know of one hobby farmer with a WD45. There were a fair number of Gleaners around. I do know my BIL who has always had IH isn't happy with his 8030 MFW and after owner it for about 18 months is wishing he's have spent a little more to get something else (the Parkers dealer sold out and his replacement sucks). I did notice that the last time I went from the cities to SD that west of the cites is an area where there were a lot of AC's. Must of had one heck of a dealer/dealers in the area. Rick

I was talking about the big CH too not the type of custom harvester around here.

IH the company did not survive for other reasons but the IH line of equipment mostly did survive. The Magnum was born out of the 88 series and of course the tillage lines and combine lines survived until DMI was bought to replace some of the tillage. Case equipment was all but eliminated before the buy out and the only tractor line continued was the Maxum out of the old David Brown which later went to McCormick brand later.

Around here AC was gaining with a real good dealer in Stewartville called Suess Equipment. They were converting several to AC including our neighbor who bought a new 7040 PS bit by about 1980 the neighbor went bust and the dealer sold out cause, as he told Dad, he saw the writing on the wall. He said if he had sold out one year earlier he would have saved about a million dollars. Gleaners were everywhere here but too many farmers were going broke and owed the dealership lots of cash.

I can't figure out why your BIL doesn't like his 8030. They are pretty sought after here and the dealers in Chatfield and Spring Valley never have them on the lot very long. I guess if you compared them to a generation newer tractor like a 7800 series or Magnum then maybe can see it but compared tp a 50 series or 88 series an 8000 series does well in my book.

Around Northfield there are a lot of Gleaners due to Issacson being a pretty decent dealer. They are in the small town of Nerstrand. Our Case dealer in Kasson was always griping about Isaacson's, calling them cut throat cause they would scoop a customer from them once in a while.

On edit I would add the biggest thing the 190 lacked above anything is power brakes but the brakes weren't bad just they require upkeep.

This post was edited by Jack a at 08:29:10 06/29/12.

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