Posted by jackinok on August 08, 2012 at 11:39:24 from (162.58.82.136):
In Reply to: Re: propane posted by LAA on August 08, 2012 at 09:29:32:
lp,liquified petroleum.natural gas is not petroleum,but it does have a few products similar, such as condensate thats refined to lp.and you are correct it can be refined into different things. but as with all things refining anything drives the costs and prices up.what make s you think theres more supply these days? demand for crude increases 20% or more every year for the last several years.demand drives price not in anyway rarity or supply.you have one gallon of ANY product and if no one wants it its simply worthless.everyone wants it its priceless!THE ABSOLUTELY WORST THING THE US OR ANY COUNTRY strategicaly speaking could do is rely totally on its own oil reserves.simply because its nonreplaceable.think of it this way,your on a deserted island,and have just enough water for two days,help will be there in a minimum of 10 days. youll likely die without water in three,so what do you do? ration to try to keep yourself simply alive as long as possible,or do you drink it all now simply because you can ,and its hopeless anyway so you may as well not be thirsty, knowing youll die for sure? the us wouldnt lower the cost of energy,its unbelievable to think so.all it would do is simply use all ours while the other oil producing countries slowed production to keep prices artificialy inflated. Meanwhile they still have theirs when we are out.Who exactly would THAT put in the drivers seat? oil is not unlimited,whoever contrls the last barrel will be the overall winner ,THATS the game not whos the strongest,not whos the best,not whos politics we like or dont like ,but who has the very last of the supplies to make war basicaly.you are very very naive if you think these rescources are unlimited.why in the world do you think we spend so much time and money on countries rich in natural rescourses,when those not are left to wither away?surely you dont believe its any humanitarian thing. Somalia is the armpit of the world,but we bend over backwards there.burma and haiti are some of the poorest in rescources we want,what do we do there?it has nothng to do with people, it has to do simply with what we can get from you. the US's policy is and has been for many many years to hold our rescources in strategic reserve. we produce only enough to make us a player on the world markets. smart money is betting on that reserve. every single barrel of saudi,iraqi,syrian ,or iranian oil we use today is simply another barrel held in reserve in the US. it doesnt take any kind of a economist to understand that.why does the us import oil? very simple its the smartest safest thing we can do bar none!cheap price? on the us market? where are you getting your numbers?we certainly are not the highest in costs,but we are NOWHERE near the cheapest in fuel costs.the highest priced places are the ones with the lowest natural rescources,the cheapest are the one with the most,the us is in the middle we have average oil costs,thats simply the result of us straddling the fence its a balancing act.you pay now or you pay later. would you rather pay more now or have your grandkids reduced to third world status?the US energy policy in a nutshell..use all you can of everyone elses..
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