Posted by jackinok on November 08, 2012 at 06:56:31 from (162.58.82.136):
In Reply to: Farm subsidies posted by Fritz Maurer on November 07, 2012 at 16:58:42:
crp is not a subsidy ,its a conservation program.a subsidy is basicaly a price fixing plan.on wheat for instance ,say wheat went to ten cents a bushel, farmers couldnt stay in buisness at that price,so the gov basically pays you a subsidy so you can stay on the farm. EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY,BAR NONE, THAT HAS A STABLE GOV,A GOOD ECONOMY ETC,PAYS FARM SUBSIDIES. Simply put a starving people cant build a good stable society,it is constantly hunting food. today folks largely curse farm subsidies as a handout,or some form of welfare for farmers.the real fact is subsidies are an insurance policy, one that helps guarantee you will have enough food on your table.no farmers,no food,no subsidies (theoreticaly, and this fact is born out time after time throuhout history) farmers lose their land,they lose their land,they cant farm ,they dont farm ,citizens dont eat,citizens dont eat,gov and country fails.look what happened to south american countries when their govs instituted subsidies,revolutions that happened on average every four years have become far less prevelent.economies are up by several hundred percent,etc etc etc,all because folks dont have to worry about food. thats the idea of subsidies.they are not paid in the good times,they are paid for the most part in bad times. subsidies on ethanol for instance are no longer paid,simply because the demand and such is high enough that its a paying proposition. MOST gov programs you hear of are conservation type programs,nearly ALL these are cost share deals where you are paid a small portion of the money you spend back as a incentive to take conservation measures.they are NOT subsidies,they are not money making deals in any way shape or form and their is NO WAY POSSIBLE you can make them so. unless of course you have a gov inspector on your payroll who will say you did work you didnt do AFTER the work has been supposedly done. But that wont work either simply because they are long term deals,and the odds of you buying off every inspector is small,and youll have more money in payoff money than you could make.
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