Posted by farmallsandcoops on November 08, 2012 at 09:31:13 from (69.57.203.41):
In Reply to: Farm subsidies posted by Fritz Maurer on November 07, 2012 at 16:58:42:
The 80% figure is largely correct in terms of the percentage of the "farm bill" that nutrition programs make up.
Paul did forget the ACRE (Average Crop Revenue Election) program. Pays farmers if their revenue falls below a specified level, but to generate a payment it requires the revenue loss on both the farm and state level. Complicated program and few enrolled.
CRP is not a real small program -- $1.7 billion in payments annually. It was started as a land idling program and has become more environmentally oriented. And around 50% to 60% of those who have land in the CRP reenroll it when given the opportunity. However, the "average" rent on those acres currently is around $50 per acre. Program is biggest in wheat
In years passed, we HAVE paid folks not to farm. The PIK program in 1983 was one. ANd there used to be at times a set-aside program where to get other payments you had to idle a portion of your land.
Oh... and the Environmental Working Group is the group behind that farmer payment database. They merely put that together to build support for getting rid of farm subsidies... or at least retarget them to "small" farmers -- Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) always asks if someone says that if they are referring to the farmer that is 5 ft. 2 inches tall!!! Their little database includes things like commodity loans which farmers pay back. They find a lot of support among those who think big is bad. Guess those folks have never heard the term cowboy economics -- spread your costs over more acres. Pretty simple concept really.
And a chunk of those who are against subsidies to bigger farmers are that way because they couldn't get big themselves.
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