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Re: Flourescent issue becomes a gfi issue?


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Posted by John T on April 28, 2013 at 04:59:01 from (216.249.82.117):

In Reply to: Flourescent issue becomes a gfi issue? posted by Jose bagge on April 27, 2013 at 20:25:42:

A GFCI does its job and can save lives when used properly, it only takes like 5 milliamps of current flow out the Hot Line thats NOT being returned via the GrounDED Conductor Neutral (i.e. a leak) to trip them out. If you run the Hot and Neutral through a Torroidal Coil the currents should balance out so thers no induced voltage, but if some of the return is flowing elsewhere, a voltage gets induced and the GFCI
trips out.

Is it common for lights to be used on a GFCI
you ask??
NOT if it was my design, but yes Ive seen it

Its been a while but when I was a design
engineer my practice was:

I NEVER protected pure ceiling lighting only
branch circuits with a GFCI.

I NEVER mixed and matched light circuits
and convenience outlet circuits i.e. light
circuits had lights ONLY and outlet circuits
had outlets ONLY not lights PLUS Outlets all
on the same circuit. I kinda figured if you
were working in a dark room and tripped
the breaker on the outlet circuit you sure
wouldnt WANT THE LIGHTS TO GO OUT ALSO !!!

I, of course, used GFCI where the NEC required
them such as within x inches of sinks and
lavatories and outdoor and garage circuits etc
unless they were dedicated for say a freezer
and there I used SINGLE outlets in not
readily accessible locations (say hidden away
behind the freezer).

Unless theres leakage current (or perhaps
excess inductance) A GFCI shouldnt necessarily
trip because a fluorescent light is used.
HOWEVER electricity, inductance and some
electronic switching can do strange things in
a GFCI so I never say never lol

Similar, I wouldnt expect the use of a meter
to trip a GFCI. They draw extremely lowwwwwwwww
current and it all should be returned via
the Neutral

Id guess theres still a hidden GFCI tripped
somewhere in a closet or elsewhere that feeds
lights downsteam thats the problem, but
finding it?? Maybe a proximity type meter
to trace down the power or loss thereof.

Like I say its been a while for me, maybe some of the more current practicing electricians have more ideas???

Ol John T and all


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