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Re: Craftsman 1st Sockets, now Wrenches in China!


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Posted by Billy NY on May 29, 2013 at 11:17:44 from (72.226.79.200):

In Reply to: Re: Craftsman 1st Sockets, now Wrenches in China! posted by Dennis (VA) on May 29, 2013 at 10:17:18:

I am hopeful too that there will be a resurgence of what you mention, so hard to predict but if there was just a way to make it fair to factory workers, wages, with incentive for employees to help it prosper, but also making the price points of products fair, seems when things get lop sided, it just does not work.

I've worked low pay jobs as of recently, given I can't land a job that matches my background, and I've done it on/off since '04, one thing is for sure, those wages don't do anything more than barely sustain your existence. It does not work you can't do crap with a $10/hour job after taxes, well you can dislike or hate it, it just makes you look good, leave every morning for a go nowhere job, which could be physically demanding or otherwise, looking forward its just a few steps beyond being incarcerated, your mind is occupied with debt, problems, things you may need, I am talking clothes, food, vehicle, housing the essentials. One thing goes wrong, you are so far upside down, then what, cardboard box on the sidewalk, steal, deal drugs, change to a life of crime, maybe sign off as many have done, ( I do not condone that for any reason !) Just not easy when your shoes are ragged, decent ones are a huge chunk of a paycheck that is otherwise needed for sustenance, you can't eat shoe leather. Low wages breed a plethora of other problems as does high cost goods, we put a man on the moon, but we cannot solve this problem.... me thinks someone wants it like this, financial oppression.

I don't see a darned thing wrong with a salary that is better than 30K, say 40K to 50K for a variety of blue collar work, given the prices of things, thats not much either but $10/hour or overseas wages, they can have it, that may have been OK with overtime in 1990, but now... something has to balance out, talented, skilled, honorable people should be compensated, those that show up and give an honest days work, I'm not talking some idle shop steward here. This just opens a can of worms here anyway, but around this area, you used to be able to find a lot of decent blue collar jobs right out of high school, now the only decent one around is the semi conductor research and chip fab plants, 7-7, 4 days every other week, lose all of Wed. to transition, have to wear a clean suit with all that entails, same politics, worker bees, but at least they pay $20, hours suck, not hard labor but not high pace fast track either.

I've worked a miserable factory job, union too, hardened criminals, had to fight my way out of numerous situations because they decided they did not like a clean cut young kid in there, someone told em I'd be coming in as a foreman, they said they'd have me quit in 3 days, I outlasted all of them, fought several, I did become yard foreman and had to physically fight for it, they sabotaged hitches on trucks, one pulled a large wood dowel on me, another literally turned the break room lunch table over and came right at me, an army veteran gone bad, he got his, told someone another place we both worked he never been hit so hard by anyone, I said I did not know you and I feared for my life,we actually became friends later on, I won em all over after fighting em off, was just like a prison, the supervisor was a timid tall and lanky puppet who ran when Joe turned that table over at the 7PM lunch break. Work a night shift in a place like this for a year, these kind of jobs are no fun, that was all for $6.35 an hour before taxes. Might be evident to see why people don't want these jobs, I am still glad to drive by that place and its an empty concrete slab, all of it gone.

Here nor there, you just hope some of this could be worked out and we americans get back into some of the great manufacturing, we once had, carrying pride in what we do at our jobs and at home.


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