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Re: Ethanol revisited, again


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Posted by JD Seller on September 08, 2013 at 08:05:20 from (208.126.196.144):

In Reply to: Ethanol revisited, again posted by IaGary on September 08, 2013 at 05:41:04:

IaGary: Ethanol was a net loser on a BTU basis until just recently. You say only one study shows it was a looser but there are others in Europe that show that too. The worrying fact to me is that ALL that studies that show HOW "GREAT" it is are in the mid-west and are sponsored by the corn growers or ethanol business. Do you think they are as pure as driven snow???

As far as the cost of oil. If we could/would use the oil we have here in the US we would have plenty. The treehuggers have just about killed the oil refinery business in this country. I think it has been something like 30-40 years since a new plant has been built.

Here is a FACT!!!! A cheap economical energy built this country. The factories and businesses all use a lot of energy. We will NEVER have a good manufacturing base with high energy cost. Without a manufacturing base the country will not last long term.

The majority of the people that are trumpeting ethanol do not admit it only works if you keep conventional energy cost HIGH. The renewable industry is a JOKE. It is just a big tax dollar PIG. NONE of the renewable energy is cost competitive. So we throw BILLIONS of dollars at higher energy cost so that it can be called renewable.

Here is the issue that is going to make that harder in the future. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BROKE!!! The money thrown at all of this stuff is going to stop one way or another. I think this economy will crash hard in the next decade. Then all of this renewable stuff is going to crash hard too. ETHANOL is included in this.

As far as the TAX breaks giving the oil industry. 100% of the ethanol plants have been built with tax breaks, grants and cheap federal money. So I think it is funny when the ethanol supporters complain that the oil industry gets tax breaks. The whole ethanol industry is on the gravy train of government money and mandates.


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