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Re: OT Toyota Frame recall


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Posted by Rick Kr on October 12, 2013 at 06:09:32 from (198.105.227.122):

In Reply to: OT Toyota Frame recall posted by flembo on October 12, 2013 at 05:15:04:

Flembo,
There is not enough space to type all the things you need to be aware of on your frame swap. I"ll try to touch on a few. This SHOULD be a ZERO cost to you transaction.

The dealership will try to get you to pay for expendables, brake lines, fasteners, etc. All this is on their bill, not yours. That is part of them removing the body from the frame.
Now, if you brake lines and shocks are ready to go, it would be a good idea to change out, while the body is off the frame. BUT, labor should be minimal, you don"t pay book rate, as most of the disassembly to get to the lines would fall under the frame swap.

I have to disagree with JDSeller and JM on warranty being a losing proposition, at least in the automotive industry. Right now Toyota labor rates are anywhere from $100-150 hour, depending on region. Any warranty part they install they automatically make 15-20% on. For instance to change shocks under warranty, they would get $50 labor, and make around $20 on the shock (shock cost +20%).

If you go to the dealer to have non-warranty work done, there is a "cheaper" labor rate since you are paying out of your own pocket. I put cheaper in quotes since it is $88.98/hour, again regionally adjusted.

You also mentioned the timing belt and water pump. They will have the cab off the frame, with the engine sitting right in front of them. Do not pay the full labor time rate for that.

Dealerships are a business, and a business needs to make money or their doors shut. I don"t know the tractor dealer business well, but I do know the auto dealers and I can tell you there is not a poor dealer anywhere. Rich is probably an understatement. Its a cut-throat business and usually its the owner and the general manager that are making the money, the technicians get treated poor at most.

Rick


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