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Re: Somehat tractor related- guns Ammo.


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Posted by Bret4207 on December 22, 2013 at 06:29:16 from (64.19.90.196):

In Reply to: Somehat tractor related- guns Ammo. posted by LOU from Wi/ on December 21, 2013 at 17:13:44:

More lies and distortions Lou. First off I never, ever said ""As a former officer I dropped more hammers on more bad guys than you ever will". " Never, ever said that. I was a Trooper Lou, NYSP, entered 03/30/87, NYSP Albany Acdemy (there was also a Brockport Academy that year) 161st session. Shield 4207. Retired with 22 years in '09, but the State credits me with 23 and change. Worked SP Indian Lake, Tupper Lake, Ogdensburg, and Troop B CVEU for the last 6 years of my career. CVEU is the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Unit Lou, that's where I was DOT Inspector. I received my DOT training at the Mass SP Academy and NYSP Academy. On the NYSP, DOT Inspectors are Troopers, not outside employees. The NYS Dept of Transportation also has DOT Inspectors Lou, but they have no arrest powers and aren't police officers. No Trooper refers to himself as an "officer", he's a Trooper- a title that you earn, just like the title Marine, which I also earned. An officer in the NYSP would be someone of Lt. or higher rank.

If you'd like verification, go down to the Case section here and ask John Saeli. John and I had a lovely accidental meeting on the roadside some years back when we were doing a DOT checkpoint and John happened to some through with a leaking air line on a truck he'd been hired to drive. He's a real good guy. You might find my old partner Dano67, I think that's his handle, on the Ford board. He just retired after 20 plus years. There may be other people here who know me. I know GSVII up in Malone knows some of the same people I do and anyone on here from the Ogdensburg/Canton/Gouverneur could certainly verify any of this with a tiny bit of effort. FOr that matter you could contact SP Canton and ask to talk to any Zone Sgt or anyone else who's been there more than 4 or 5 years or the Troop B CVEU Sgt, who I believe works out of SP Malone these days. Or you could contact the NYSP CVEU HQ in Albany for verification. I believe Sgt Ray Weiss is still running it along with my class mate Sgt Tom Fuller, both who were on the FMCSA advisory board. For that matter, you could alkso contact JDemaris and ask him his contacts in Indian Lake if they remember a Trooper named Bret. It should be no problem

at all. I can also refer you to any number of truckers and cattle haulers here in my area, various court officials, police officers, sheriffs, USBP agents, Homeland Security, NYS DOC or NYS DOT employees that knew me and and can verify all this.

Secondly I never said I "dropped the hammer" on anyone Lou- because I never had to. I got very, very close but thankfully I never had to. Part of the reason I didn't is because I know that as soon as you do your world ends. I didn't want that for myself or my family Lou. IIRC, and I could be somewhat wrong, I responded to your post when you advised a "shoot first, ask questions later" approach with no regard for the outcome. Anyone contemplating deadly force better know exactly what he's getting into. I'm sure that's the gist of what I advised.

As for the gun shop, it was my dads and was started in the mid 70's, Wicks Sporting and Repair in North Creek NY. I took it over after dad died in a car accident after I got out of the USMC. The shop closed when I moved my family from there to Tupper Lake NY where I had a Husqvarna dealership. I suppose that's a lie too? I've been an NRA Life member since 1974, have been reloading and casting my own since about 78 or so. I have an extensive library on ballistics and reloading going all the away back to the 1890's and even earlier. If you'd like any verification of my background and experience please go to castboolits.gunloads.com and view any of my posts there. You can verify my being a Trooper there too if you wish since several of us there have done face to face meetings or are people I worked with.

FYI- we were talking Hornady bullets Lou. We weren't talking about plated cast bullets. 2 entirely different projectiles Lou. If you want to go with cast, that's fine. There are new COATINGS for cast bullets that are all the rage these days I'm told. I haven't messed with it. You could find info on that over on the castboolits board. Plated boolits are also a different critter in which there is an electro-chemical process used to apply a plating to the lead alloy boolit. Jacketed bullets, those like we were talking about, are formed in swages and presses, not by coating or plating. Some designs of jaketed or homogenous (Barnes type) pure copper or copper alloy bullets do come with a plating or coating, often advertised to reduce friction or fouling. None of that has anything to do with the 30 cal 220 gr RN Hornady bullet you want. That particular bullet is designed, according to Hornady, for controlled expansion (it doesn't open up and mushroom easily) and deep penetration. It's a traditional heavy jacket design meant for heavy game like elk, bear, etc. If it works for you, fine, have at it. I merely suggested a lighter, more readily available bullet designed for deer sized game was an option. Why you'd find that offensive I have no idea.

When people were coming down on you for trying to make tracks fit your crawler I remember backing you up on it in some of your posts and you commenting favorably on it. I've also supported some of your other posts Lou. Other times I've avoided commenting at all when you were acting like a spoiled brat. You need to understand this is just words Lou. I meant no offense to you in my original post, mush of it wasn't directed at you so much as at the idiots around me that have to have the biggest, baddest rifle, the one that scares them to death and makes them flinch and wound deer. You took it wrong and began with the insults and here we are.

"I know that as a retired Trooper and former DOT Inspector, if I was going to do it, the first thing I'd do is ask a vague question lacking any specifics on an internet forum. That's an almost certain way to get lots of tickets and maybe sued. "

That's called sarcasm Lou and is intended to get people to give themselves a dope slap when they realize that what applies in NY, for instance, may not apply in Idaho. Local laws vary, Federal Laws are different.

You should pick your targets more carefully Lou.


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