Posted by Bret4207 on March 05, 2014 at 04:32:56 from (64.19.90.196):
In Reply to: fracking pros cons posted by Tom Schnitzler on March 04, 2014 at 11:12:59:
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Where are the materials for the solar panels coming from Tom? China. And what environmental safeguards are taken in China? Where is the copper for the windings int he windmills coming from? South America, and what safeguards are taken there? Where are the plastics int he solar panels and windmills coming from? Crude oil, mostly from the Mid-East. And what safeguards are taken there? The point is that just because they aren't producing that stuff in your backyard doesn't mean we are getting a free ride.
Go to your methane idea. It's great on the small scale, but how do you do it on a large scale? I kind of doubt that African village is using methane to run gensets capable of powering an average US household. More likely it's cooking gas and maybe for hot water. If we went to ethanol how much more land would we need to meet our needs? How much more chemical inputs to grow the crops? Sugar cane, what they make the ethanol from in Brazil IIRC, doesn't grow everywhere and corn or switchgrass of whatever takes energy to produce. What's the trade off point?
Balance is what we need. As far as electricity, nuclear is still the most promising answer. The alternative is that we lower our standard of living. What balance point are you comfortable with? I could build a wood-gas generator and supply a lot of my needs, but in these pages you will find people who would shut me down over the smoke produced or the noise or the fact I'm not paying "my fair share" of taxes to support social programs.
This is why there's no head long rush to alternatives. Every action has a reaction someplace. It all costs someone something. No one wants to pay a penny more than he has to and that's just the way it is.
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