Posted by Billy NY on May 09, 2014 at 22:03:09 from (66.67.105.23):
In Reply to: Re: Ford 4000 1964 posted by Leroy on May 09, 2014 at 17:23:52:
I'd say that would be obvious with a 4000 S-O-S, we know the typical front end on these were.... OK for a loader, given the dry assembly of a pivot pin and axle support, this front end does not compare to the light industrial front axle like on a light industrial 2000, 3400 and or other industrial models for loader work given the accelerated wear from the additional weight, you'll still get a ton of hours out of them even if worn. As far as the transmission goes, think about the work a highway mowing tractor does, for years before its sold as surplus, auctioned etc. The tractor by design was not really suited for a loader or a backhoe, but plenty of them were fitted on S-0-S tractors, and you still see those in various condition out there, given the reputation and rumors about these, all of those should have been scrap a long time ago, funny that many are still around today, how many years later?
If the tractor is used as a dedicated loader, 8 hours a day, say like construction equipment, or similar applications, its hard to say how much wear is accelerated on the trans also figure in operator habits, that plays a huge role as does regular maintenance. The 4 and 5 speed and even the 8x2, 6x2 trans in later thousand series were also not the most productive or best suited trans for a dedicated loader tractor, unless there was a reverser, shuttle trans like the industrial models had. So in general, for farm use and say weekend land maintenance or limited use, all of these are just fine, but if you plan on needing it working 8hrs a day, 5 day a week work, loading trucks, or heavy loader work, you simply are looking at the wrong machine. We sold a fair amount of S-O-S tractors as I recall, thousand series, to a variety of end users and I don't ever recall any serious problems with any of them, we did have talented mechanics in our shop with current training on these to be ready. Work the heck out of these, don't follow the maintenance schedule and or address immediate problems, then yes, best to avoid owning one of these loader or no loader. I do recall seeing 6000 commanders in for work, trans and other problems, but not later general purpose tractors.
A lot of people are so sour on these, and there are some valid reasons, but many will repeat what they hear and have never owned, serviced or had any experience with them, and though I am no S-0-S expert by any means, I spent a lot of time on one, in addition to our ford dealership, the largest in this vicinity for 30-40 years, we sold enough of them to know they were no where near as bad as many state they are, fact not fiction here.
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