Posted by wisbaker on May 25, 2014 at 20:35:40 from (173.30.33.15):
In Reply to: totally OT, but... posted by JRSutton on May 25, 2014 at 07:22:06:
They're illegal immigrants, not like the current bunch in DC is going to do anything about it. As far as "just following orders" we pretty much said that wouldn't fly at Nuremberg. Additionally when you go in the service they teach you that you have an obligation to follow any lawful order, and a similar obligation to disobey any unlawful order. As far a prosecution of guards at POW and Concentration camps it is my understanding the prosecution is only directed at service members who violated Geneva Convention articles, meaning they participated in the torture, experiments or otherwise took part in illegal activities directed at the prisoners or inmates. An example was a Japanese POW camp guard faced prosecution after the war because he had in his possession a watch that belonged to an American Officer interned in his camp. The Officer was Marine Corps Major Pappy Boyington, charges were dropped after Major Boyington confirmed that he freely gave the watch to the guard and stated He probably wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for that one guard.
Yes I understand they're old and in months or at most years the problem will sort itself out, I still favor sending them back. Their home country or Germany should be forced to take them or offer them to Israel, let them try them and punish them as they see fit, if not maybe one of the neutral countries (Sweden or Switzerland) would offer exile for the little time they have left.
I feel they avoided paying for their actions for many years and have probably lived pretty well for most of the years they were in the US, sending them back or to jail for the last few years of their life is a small price to pay for he years of freedom they enjoyed but didn't deserve.
Yes I agree some of our actions may of been outside of the Geneva convention. In Europe we seemed to go out of our way to minimize destruction of non-military targets including our policy of "Precision Daylight Bombing" that lead to brutal aircrew losses during the early part of the war in Europe. We didn't seem to be as careful in the Pacific and firebombed all major Japanese cities and eventually used Nuclear weapons on two of them. Our justification was a little weak, that decentralization of Japanese industry into cottage industries located everywhere and the fact that the entire Japanese population was prepared to take up arms to protect their homeland made just about the entire Island of Japan a valid military target.
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