Posted by rview_ on September 11, 2014 at 06:28:22 from (199.47.65.62):
In Reply to: used tractor dealers posted by don656 on September 10, 2014 at 12:35:42:
I just spent a few months replacing my 105, and it was not fun. I apparently live in some sort of "void". Nothing in classified ads at all below $50k within well over 100 miles, nothing on the morning ads on the radio except a 4430 over $20k that has been advertised for months. The only thing on Craigslist was a 5288, said 500 hours on overhaul, looked it up and found it on consignment, drove 120 miles one way to look at it because they said it was good, lots of oil floating in the radiator. 4230 JD at the closest dealer 30 miles away that had many issues, only tractor there below $50k, next bunch of used tractors around $15k were a couple Cases about 70 miles away. Few and far between, and less than a handful below $40k. Finding time/days I could go look was difficult. One day drove over 300 miles one way and found few, and mostly junk, seals out/tractor needs split and not cheap, transmissions out or close, etc., less than a handful of tractors, all junk, circling back another way, no deals, and not willing to work on stuff like you said, work it in the deal even if paid for. Most anything to look at was 150 miles away. And either email and get absolutely no response at all, or call, and they 9 out of 10 times said they'd call back and NEVER did. Some "coming in" left my number, no call backs. Also, if I did call on one that I said I was going to look at, they'd go out and "prep" it, start it, get it warm, I didn't like that so I stopped calling. Also, people ahead of me, waiting, while looking for the same types of tractors. I only stopped at one tractor "jockey" that usually has an IH MX in. A couple around 120s there but not prepped. Both were the worst looking tractors I had ever seen, looked like they had been through everything, beat up, welded on, etc. He said he didn't know the actual hours, and they would be around $45k. One had a very stinky active mouse nest in the console, the other had a calendar from '05 in it.
Finally, one day, I had enough. Saw the 4240 online, pictures were the poorest quality I saw, like taken with an "ancient" cell phone from 10 years ago, small, low megapixel. Just decided I'd drive the 140-150, whatever there, didn't call. Drove it, a few leaks, but by far the best driving one I had seen the entire time, including $50k ones. The deal I worked out was basically I paid full price, but I asked if they had a loader there. The only one was off of a 4440, a DuAl 3100 with grapple, bucket, and pallet fork. They threw the loader in. I said any leaks or issues they saw around it, I'd pay to have fixed. I said I hadn't started haying yet and needed it soon and just to hook up and go. Anyway, they delivered it two weeks later (guess that's soon), with leaks. Hydraulic leak was too much to use by that time (loader hooked up, made it worse). They delivered it Saturday on Labor day weekend (think it was labor day weekend, I don't pay attention to holidays/weekends). Had to wait until Tuesday and drive 30 miles one way for parts before I could use it. I have only used it for 100 bales so far, but no issues. Under the cab is a little noisy but my 2510 makes the same noise in the same place. Starting Saturday looks like next week will be ok for haying so I will get a bit more, no where near done, but I should easily get more hay than the last two years with the better weather. I buy several truckloads of hay anyway every year.
About this tractor, I had figured if it wouldn't work out, I had a $45k and $55k one picked out near there, I was done trying to find one. I put on a few hundred hours on this one tractor, not as much as some, just knew I could get by with a "cheap" one, didn't see a reason to get "more" if I didn't have to. But, this place had a completely different "vibe" to it. The salesman was cussing around the paperwork, made fun of me a little, etc. This tractor was the one they were using on their lot, they had a heavy 3 point grader/drag thing on it. My thought was if they knew something was out or going to go, why would they be using it themselves? And it was obvious they were using it, not a made up story. It was traded in on a new tractor.
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