Posted by rummm64 on October 25, 2014 at 18:15:27 from (64.111.43.108):
Hi to all.
I've been lurking for awhile now and learn some valuable
info here. But I've run into a problem that really got me
pulling hair. Thought I might jump on here and ask if anyone
else has run into this trouble. I'll tell the whole story that began last fall and hopefully you won't fall asleep before the end.
Anyway when I went to start the tractor I turned the key
and the starter wouldn't crank (just a click) so I turned the
key a couple more time rather quickly and tractor pops right off.
I didn't think to much about it and went on with mine business.
Well this spring thing continued to get worse with the starter
so I got a new battery cleaned up all the battery connections
(including the ground) installed a new ignition switch ($100)
and to no avail. I fought the starter during planting season.
Now normally this tractor sits in the the shed, but I had the
the shed floor poured (concrete) and the tractor sit out for a
month. So monday I was combining some beans and got the combine stuck. So I jump on the deutz and after about 30 tries
it starts and pull out the combine. I pull the tractor in the shed
and low and behold I can't get starter to kick in. So I have starter rebuilt & new solenoid ($300). Still nothing. I pull the gear neutral switch check the voltage 12.5 in and 12.5 out
and it's not stuck. So I turn the key on jump the starter to solenoid and bam tractor starts. So I start tracing the wiring from the gear neutral switch(GNS) back and probing the volt meter thru the wire and get about 2 feet from the GNS and the volts drop to 10.3 volts. I'm thinking OK somewhere between here and the GNS I've got a short. So I replace that section of wire and check volts before splicing together 12.5 volt.
I splice it together and check and I'm back to 10.5.
I check it at the solenoid and it's 7.8 volts. (What The Heck)
So the resistance must be in front of the splice, well this is where it begins to go back into cab and into dash. I'm digging around in there and I'm thinking I should be able to just splice
a wire from the switch straight to the solenoid. Wrong, I've got nothing but clicks at the glow plug and a clicking on the fuel pump side(there's a Bosch plug with a single wire running to it
I can't seem to find correct name for the thing or what it does)
So I'll go back and undo the splice from switch to solenoid.
My first thought is maybe I'm missing a another safety switch some where, but I can't find one. I'm at about at my wits end
with this thing. So any ideas? Is there a relay some where I'm missing? Something is drawing the volts down before it gets to the solenoid but I can't seem to find it.
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