John in La said: (quoted from post at 10:56:16 01/03/15) Yes the ocean and land for that matter put out a lot of CO2. But then again the land and ocean take in a lot of CO2.
It is a well balanced eco system we call earth.
But like any balanced system in you have more input (us adding CO2) than output a unbalanced system will evolve.
Look at it like this.....
You make $97 a week. (what the world can uptake in CO2)
You have $96 a week in bills. (what the world puts out in CO2)
Now all of a sudden you get $100 in bills (the world out put of CO2 and mans CO2)
You will get along for a while because the world had a larger uptake than out put for millions of years (this was your savings account)
Sooner or later the savings is gona run out; and like us today we are putting out more CO2 (man made and earth made) than the earth can take in.
My real question was..........
If CO2 is so bad that we ban burning coal; why do we promote others burning coal to destroy our air.
But John, the problem is that it's not $100.00. You had (using your example) $95.00 of water vapor, $3.50 of naturally occurring CO2 and $0.12 of man made CO2 and the rest is methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. The total of all the man made gases comes out to about $0.28 of your $100.00. Starting from the pre-industrial baseline studies indicate man made additions to GH gases amount to a little over 12K PPB (.0012%!!!)and natural causes account for about 69 PPB. That''s almost 6x as much naturally produced GH gases as man made GH gases since the industrial age began. Those are US Dept of Energy figures and don't add in water vapor.
Now, I will admit to being skeptical. But asking me to believe that .28% of the GW atmospheric gases (not the same as pollutants BTW), at a 12K PPB increase over 150 years while natural factors are responsible for a 69K PPB increase....and then throw in agenda driven studies, falsified data thats been uncovered, various other pretty sketchy activity and the distortions that are peddled as "fact"...it all adds to my skepticism. Does climate change? Of course. Can man have influence? Of course. But when the same people that tell you we did something tell you that anything we do isn't likely to have any effect but that we should keep funding their research and that we should take some pretty radical steps involving wealth redistribution... it kind of makes you wonder just what the heck is really going on.
This post was edited by Bret4207 at 09:16:04 01/03/15 6 times.
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