Posted by JD Seller on February 01, 2015 at 17:32:45 from (208.126.198.123):
In Reply to: Educate me on planters posted by picassomcp on February 01, 2015 at 16:35:44:
The JD 7000 plateless finger pickup set the standard for 25-30 years. They are a simple durable planter that is easy to maintain.
You can buy parts at many sources for the JD 7000 planter as well. You are not locked in to just JD for parts and attachments.
You are going to want double disk openers on any type of planter you buy. Then you want the depth control to be right at these openers.
Row cleaners are an attachment that just moves trash/clods/soil from directly in front of the openers. In your full tillage you really do not need row cleaners unless you have a lot of trash left after your tillage.
Seed firmers are an attachment that just firms the seed into the bottom of the seed slot made by the double disk openers. Most of them attach to the seed tube and are a plastic arm that runs in the seed slot behind the double disk openers. There are many different type and shapes of these firmers. I have used them and really can't decide if they are worth the money in conventional tillage. In notil I think they are worth the money.
IF your going to plant soybeans then you will need a different meter on a JD planter. These meters just bolt to the bottom of the seed boxes. They are simple to change. 1)The plateless unit is for corn mainly. It will not plant a high enough rate of seed per acre for soybeans. 2)The cheapest option is the old style "bean cups" that first came out on the JD units. They just volumetrically measure the beans out. So as seed size changes (seeds per pound) you need to change the population settings. 3)Then the newer and better design is the rotary brush meter that singulates the soybeans similar to how the corm meter does. Meaning it sorts and drops each soybean separately.
As for the transmission drive you will want the simple ground drive system. The hydraulic drive is used with GPS and varying rate systems. To get setup to use that can easily cost thousands of dollars.
As for started fertilizer. That depends on your soil fertility. Starter fertilizer does not gain much if any additional yield in high fertility soils. In low fertility, cooler notil planting then the starter fertilizer can make better yields in some years.
I used to use starter fertilizer but have not in 15 years or more. The newer seeds seem to have better early vigor so the starter seemed to make less difference.
As far as dry or liquid starter. Both work. The liquid is easier to handle IF you have the pumps and tanks to haul it but your limited in choices of nutrients. With dry you have more choices but it is usually more work to handle. Usually you would use a gravity wagon and hydraulically driven auger to handle the dry fertilizer.
As far as brands of planters. I would rate the JD/Kinze as the best for your operation. The next would be the White planters they work pretty well but your parts suppliers are more limited, fewer after market sources. The IH cyclone planters (400 or 800) would be my last choice. They singulate the seed and then blow it down a tube to the opener. This effects the spacing of the seeds.
That is kind of a rough outline of planters. Email me if you want to talk about this more. I would be glad to help.
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