Re: Deutz Allis

Posted by robert major on February 03, 2015 at 23:28:52 from (216.130.84.111):

In Reply to: Deutz Allis posted by LAA on February 03, 2015 at 19:14:15:

Hi
I heard from a guy up here in Canada, some models are getting shipped back to europe for stripping used parts from for re sale, due to no new or expensive replacements.

The transmissions can be just ignorant and expensive in some models to fix.

Usually i hear the 4cyl ones Don't have the power to hurt the transmissions. But check all gears/ drive line real good, for any strange noises/ jumping out of gears. its usually a very precise syncro trans in most deutz tractors. you should be able to fly the gears up and down in the yard, I think that was one model i drove in the dealers one day like this one. It shifted like a precision racing car trans.

All the models i have seen up close have a hydraulic tank for oil on top of the trans. The seals on the motor driven pump can fail, letting hyd oil in the motor from the timing case. If it gets enough in, it will blow oil out the muffler like old faithful!. Thats a pretty impressive trick the first time it happens, that was the one I drove in the dealers did that.

I was going to work on one model 2 years ago they thought a plug had fallen out in the hyd tank it was adding oil to the gearbox and motor from the pump, the guy sold it for a good offer first, as it had other( beat to death) issues as well!.

Generally the motors are good if they have been looked after, Guys were buying them used to run welders in the oil patch at one point, I know of one in a track hoe got 10.000 hrs hard on never been touched, just been maintained well.

I have seen the odd one that kinda pops on a cylinder or 2 when they start. then quit when they warm up. It can be the cylinder heads blowing and needing work, or the manifolds leaking. Guys tell me they can be a pig to get back together and seal, due to getting all the individual heads in line after motor work.

As with any tractor you get good and bad ones. if it's a good tractor, with no issues. you have great dealer support/parts back and availability up near by. Possibly a big check book like most makes need these days, to fix some things later if needed. I'd say go for it. if not then I'd say run forest run to be honest.
Round this area some of the models problems, have killed the reputation of them totally, and guys won't buy them or they are cheap in sales for that reason, and leave the area.
Regards Robert

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