Posted by Billy NY on March 02, 2015 at 14:31:28 from (104.228.35.235):
In Reply to: Do I NEED This? posted by Bryce Frazier on March 02, 2015 at 12:21:32:
I would suggest that you do need a cultipacker for oats, be it they are drilled or broadcast. If broadcast I like to plant them after primary tillage and the first pass with the disc harrow. Broadcast the oats, then make one pass with the disc harrow, broadcast any fine seed, then finish with the cultipacker. Most are drilled, but I have done both, always needed a cultipacker though. Fine seed, you may need to firm the seed bed prior to planting, so one of these will do that, you plant then make a final pass with one. Seed germination was always good. I'm not sure how a grain drill with the seed boxes for grasses and similar fine or small seed works, but assume it leaves them on top as the drill does its thing with the larger seed. When you run the cultipacker over it, the seed on top should have much better soil contact. I never planted hay ground with my friend before, but as long as I can remember he always packed it after planting and he sure know how to get an impressive stand of hay grasses. His fields were outstanding, and the hay which I bought quite a bit of was very nice.
What and how are you planting, drill, broadcast ? What is the soil like, lot of rocks or is it clean top soil ?
I think the reason the farmer I used to help made a separate pass with another tractor and the cultipacker, on oats and or hay ground which he always planted with a nurse/cover crop, was so you could pick the larger rocks up as you rolled the field, otherwise I am sure it would have been hitched to the drill.
I used to fuss on his fields and make them as clean on the surface as I could, no rocks to worry about with the grain head on the combine and the operator could cut lower, increasing the straw yield, one year on our field, with a little extra nitrogen the straw yield increased exactly 50% He used to tell me I did a good job and it was always nice to know what you did was appreciated, that meant the world to me.
Now lets see if this darned site will allow me to post photos again and not lose the text or my reply, the previous attempt ended with the loss of my response and all these duplicate photos from going back and forth.
In all seriousness, if its not on my end, me or anything I did, its entirely frustrating when you try to share information, photos, experience to be helpful to another person, in this case, you Bryce, an enthusiastic young man who likes these old tractors, implements, with good intention to use them LOL !
In the photos you should be able to see clearly, the difference on the surface of the ground that has been packed, and what has not been after the grain drill. You can see the larger rocks needed to be removed on the surface. I did 70 acres by hand that year, picking all the larger rocks off the fields.
I was pulling a 12' double roller Brillion, I like the double roller, it does a great jon. Also a photo of what happens even after you have checked all the bolts on one of these, one still fell out and I lost the back roller, the arm was cast steel and I was easily able to weld it, then tack welded the bolts that could fall out if loosened. Never forget that, as I had gone over the darned thing and tightened all of them snug.
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