Posted by Leroy on April 21, 2015 at 07:00:18 from (69.88.205.69):
In Reply to: soybeans posted by Don-Wi on April 21, 2015 at 00:14:47:
What nobody is talking sbout is bean type. Straight line, no branches on plant? Bush, lots of branches on plant and generaly taller? Medium bush, someware in between? Maturity, early, meedium or late? A early straight line short type will do better with the drill and you would use quite a bit more seed but you need a lot more stalks with that type of plant, now a heavy tall bush type is better in the 32" rows as it will branch out and fill the middles where a short straight line will not. The straight line are generaly a smaller bean while the bush type are generaly larger. Now anouther question is soil type in is it a type that does not crust over or a clay type that will crust so hard you have trouble putting a shovel in the ground? The beans in the crusting soil will do better at emergence using the planter as in that condition you should have a been every 1 1/2" apart in the row and with that they will break thru the crust where with the drill you might have one bean in every 7" square and that one bean will not be able to break thru the crust even using a good rotary hoe. The longer the season the taller the bean generaly is. Eather way have a good seed to soil seed bed worked deep enough to get good depth with either drill or planter, planter with the press wheels will work better if ground is a bit more cloddy as the press wheels if the clods are not too hard will break them up, use your corn planting as a guide on that. With the drill at least use a light weight spike tooth harrow to smooth over the field and to be sure all the beans are covered. A good way is a light weight cultipacker behind the drill and the spike tooth behind that. That is the way we did it in later years using 1950's erea John Deere or McCormick drills, your Van Brunt is just the no fertilizer version of the FB that we had only our drills were 13-7. Ny planters were a 494 set on 40" rows to start, then bought a 494 set on 30" rows, followed be a 494A set on 30" rows first with shoe openers and later installed the disk openers, shoes no problem getting seed covered, the double disk I did have problems with that but I did not have the disk row covers on that I should have had on but didn't because of stuck bearings, If did not cover correctly had to go over after planter with that packer and harrow. I don't think you have a combine so how do you plan to harvest them? That could also influnce how you plant them. If you plan on using them as forrage then you do not want rows and would not need to think about them maturing like for grain and you would want double the plants per acre and a perfectly smooth field but you also need that with a combine so you are not running clods thru the combine. Without knowing the answers to these questions then no one can give a reasonable answer to your question and a lot are thinking on using the newer items like the Deere 7000 plante or no till drills and not light weight machinery like you have and that I used, big difference there in way to do things. Row width for spraying does not mean much as now most spraying is done with the beans less than 6" tall, Now if the spray you gan get is to be a late season application and beans are 2+' tall then row with could matter as long as the tractor and sprayer wheels would match the row spacing. Not nere as simple as you were thinking about but all questions you need to answer before you buy the beans. In your area I think for grain a medium group 2 would be about correct maturity. Around me I have seen a lot of group 4 beans that never matured due to frost, myself I never used longer than a late group 3 and prefered a mid group 3. I would rather sacrifice the pontential for a couple of bushels per acre to get them harvested before snow falls. And get them harvested before the snow-mud and not hope to have to wait untill spring to harvest and hope there were still beans to harvest. Have not alway been succesfull at that. One year had to harvest after a 6" snowfall and had to not only use the pickup real on the combine but the pickup guards to help lift the stalks off the ground. Long but items you need to think about before you decide.
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