First off never once did I imply that I thought Oliver was far superior to any other brand. I didnt even bring Oliver into the conversation until Minnie up there apparently saw my username and thought "Oh man, he has Oliver in his name, he is only here to bash Deere" which wasnt the case at all. I have spent plenty of seat time in Deeres and I enjoy driving them. My friends 3010 Diesel and my old Bosses 4455 FWA were two of my favorite tractors to drive just because they were fun to operate, just not fun to work on. I was just trying to point out that Deere never really tried to be innovative and put out new designs like the other manufacturers were doing at the time, and that is one reason they are still around. That being said, yes I am partial to Oliver because my grandfather worked at the South Bend Plant and we still farm with Oliver's and yes I do think they had a few things that were better than Deere, but I left that out of the conversation until somebody else made it a Deere vs. Everyone else fight.
Second, the only 2 Olivers with a serious reputation for engines was the 18/1955 and that was Whites screw up not Olivers. Oliver had a whole new series of tractors designed from the ground up that were supposed to become the 55 series tractors. They were going to have a planetary CVT transmission and a new series of engines that were up over 400 cubes like a 100 horse and up tractor should have. Farmers had seen the test tractors working on farms and Oliver had standing orders for the new generation tractors then Sam White and his crew stepped in and scrapped the whole project and instead chose to basically keep the 50 series tractors (which had already been maxed out) with a few upgrades and turn the screw a little harder leading to engine failures and in turn leading to the bad reputation of the 310 Waukesha. What killed Oliver, Moline and Cockshutt was the same thing that killed IH, management that had no clue and didnt care.
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