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Re: Loss of the US Indianapolis


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Posted by dhermesc on July 30, 2015 at 08:03:32 from (24.248.193.103):

In Reply to: Re: Loss of the US Indianapolis posted by 01gentdc on July 30, 2015 at 06:46:05:

It is documented fact. Japan knew from day one of the war that it could not defeat the US. It's only hope was to make "victory" so costly the US would sue for peace leaving Japan in a favorable position - that was the war aim in 1942 that was the war aim in 1945. The difference being that in 1942 they hoped it would result in them occupying much of SE Asia in 1945 they hoped it would prevent the allies from occupying Japan. They never considered Manchuria an issue it was theirs and they were keeping it. Japan was secretly going through the Soviet Union to negotiate a peace deal with the US. When the Soviets instead of brokering peace actually invaded Manchuria the Japanese knew there would be no negotiated peace settlement other the unconditional surrender just as the Germans had. That and they could deal with the British and Americans doing the occupation or they could have the Soviet hordes taking and keeping parts of the home islands just as they were in Germany.


If you read what the Japanese were doing instead of what US military leaders THOUGHT the Japanese were doing you would realize how little regard the Japanese had for the loss of two cities. The Tokyo fire bombings caused much more death and destruction than the atomic bombings. The second issue is the leadership of Japan didn't fully understand the atomic bombings, conflicting reports on single bomb vs fleet of bombers, damage actually caused vs conflicting reports of damage etc... The leadership literally didn't know that they had been hit by a new weapon and failed to understand its destructiveness. For that matter the US wasn't quite sure what it had done either.


Uncle Joe only got into the Pacific war because the FDR begged and dealed him into it. Continued US material support to the Soviet Union was tied to the Soviets agreeing to attack Japan 3 months after the defeat of Germany, the surprise attack on Manchuria occurred exactly 3 months after the defeat of Germany (to the day).


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