Posted by Brad Gyde on September 09, 2015 at 00:07:46 from (184.21.136.89):
In Reply to: ih 430 SQ BALER posted by Frank IL on September 08, 2015 at 16:06:50:
I stacked many bales of straw behind a 430 All-Twine in my teens and early 20's.
By the time I was big enough to really be of help, I'm going to guess the baler had pushed 150,000+ bales through it. Grandpa and my uncles bought it before I was born, and I recall us baling roughly 10,000 bales a year in my young teen years, but as my uncles moved off the farm, the baling slowly tapered off until I was the only one that would help. When the baler left the farm, it was showing it's wear, but still worked pretty good. The person who has it now was still using it last i knew.
I recall it working well with sisal, 130 pound, and 170 pound plastic twine, but it never wanted to work that well with the 110 pound plastic.
I recall having trouble one year with it tying.. One evening when we stopped it was working fine, the next morning I greased it and we had a heck of a time.. Got a neighbor to come look at it (he was a former IH dealer) and he said I had pumped way too much grease to the knotters.. Seemed funny to me back then, but from that point on, I gave it 3-4 pumps on the knotter fittings and never had the same trouble the rest of the years we used it.
It would occasionally miss bales, and consistent size was sometimes an issue.. I could never figure it out back then, but as I have gotten older and bought my own baler, I've come to realize grandpa was plain going too fast, trying to choke too much through it. I now have a Deere baler.. Never misses a bale, and size is always uniform UNTIL you start to hog material in, then I have the same problems we had with the old 430.
I remember grandpa having to change the needle frame one year, and we had the pto shaft break at a yoke one time. I'm sure it had needles, billhooks, twine knives, and other wear parts in it's life, but that should be expected no matter what brand or model.
The last year we used it there was a set of gears that "separated" from each other and the baler jumped time and broke a few things.. We bought parts, fixed it, and finished baling with it. The gears were near the feed forks if I remember right, and there are slotted grooves to adjust tooth lash.. Best we can figure is the nuts worked loose just enough allowing one gear to slide away from the other and BANG.
The 430 has been gone about 10 years now, but if I ever run across one cheap that works, I'd sure like snatch it up, if for nothing other than the sentimental value of having it in the barn.. I bought the D-17 grandpa always pulled it with, shoulda bought the baler too, but at 25 I wasn't interested in no more baling.. at 30 I decided to start baling again lol..
Sorry for the long post, just wanted to tell you my experiences, and got sidetracked with my life story
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