Posted by oldtanker on January 28, 2016 at 07:14:03 from (64.118.3.19):
In Reply to: Wrong way drivers... posted by Dick2 on January 27, 2016 at 05:13:05:
While I'm generally in favor of capital punishment I'm totally against revenge killing.
In most states that allow and actually carry out the death penalty manslaughter and negligent homicide are not included.
Now I don't drink and drive nor do I condone it. And I'm not making excuses for them. But that drunk person didn't intend to kill anyone. They intended to go home and sleep it off. And they, because of the booze are convinced that they are OK to drive. I do believe that longer jail times are needed but with prison overcrowding that isn't going to happen. A judge is more apt to stick a guy selling a little pot in jail for a few years than he is a drunk driver in spite of the number of states that have felony DUI laws.
Only 2 countries in the world have the death penalty for DUI, El Salvador and Bulgaria (2nd offence).
The reason that most of Europe has a much lower rate of DUI is 2 fold. One is that with the general drinking culture in most European countries it just isn't considered acceptable and kids are taught that both at school and at home. The 2nd part is because of the size of the countries there they have working mass transit so the perceived need to drink and drive isn't there.
The US military had a huge problem with drinking and driving for years. It was indeed part of the culture. Then, because of MADD and the news media in 86 or 87 they came up with a new policy. Any officer or NCO involved in ANY alcohol or drug related incident would be processed for a discharge. When DUI's could destroy a career the number of DUI's drastically decreased. By 1990 most commanders processed anyone who got a DUI regardless of rank for discharge and in fact a unit's DUI rate could reflect adversely on a commanders career.
I really don't have an answer for the problem. Laws making the bar tender take keys and the bar liable haven't worked. My wife's own aunt lost her bar because of that. Not only did she take a guys keys, she continued to serve him. Then at closing time, in a small town with no motels gave them back. He didn't make it 5 miles before he killed himself in a DUI wreck. The state of MN gave her a stiff fine and took her liquor license. No criminal charges. Till the day she died she believed she had done nothing wrong. Most areas don't have enough cops to adequately patrol either. About 10 years ago the MN state police released it's report on the number of DUI arrests for the year. It was higher than normal. In an interview the state police commander said something to the effect that they had not had more patrols out. That they had just caught more. Then he stated that he thought that the police, because of lack of man power, were only catching about 40% or so.
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