Posted by RandyB(MI) on March 10, 2016 at 08:43:53 from (75.133.131.65):
In Reply to: Todays steel posted by Eldon (WA) on March 09, 2016 at 21:27:24:
Like "RM-MN" said down a few posts, "BEAN COUNTERS" says it all. Steel can and is still as good or better in some cases as it ever was. Customers have more choices as to the price / quality than they ever had and just like carpeting, some trying to save a buck and make their job look "needed" will always take the $ 10 a yard carpeting. In the case of steel it will be the welders/benders/fabricators and end user that finally pay the price. I worked in a factory producing huge whole tree grinders/chippers and I've seen this first hand. 1/2" steel plate we used to bend 90 degrees without problems, now cracks at the bend and sometimes twice and their answer is to call out welders and go around machine and weld up all the cracks.Mill scale is another big problem. So bad it looks like "alligator hide" and my paint dept would get called out on it as if it were a "paint" problem. Once I proved it to them what it was and that they were having rust problems 6 mos down the road with customers, they priced "good" steel against the scab steel and would have had their problem solved be it not for the "bean counters". Take one guess which steel we continued top use? At least they knew better than to come to me as their "goat". The "beaners" will continue to win this war until a competitor comes forward and identifies it to customers and goes the other route. Not too likely. I couldn't even get them to go to urethane paint/primers until 2008 and then only because our customers/dealers were royally 9issed and forced it. Even then they forced our supplier to cut his bid/quality to come in where the "beaners" felt comfortable. Welcome to big business!
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