Posted by oldtanker on May 30, 2016 at 06:32:12 from (66.228.255.59):
In Reply to: Vets posted by wilson ind on May 29, 2016 at 08:06:47:
I find the attitude that the Japanese "deserved" the atomic bombs because of atrocities committed. There were a lot of women and children right down to and including babies who had not done a darned thing wrong, other to have been born in Japan who were incinerated or who suffered through radiation poisoning.
As far as the Japanese peace feelers in 1943 they were not for Japan. Japan offered to act as a go between to negotiate peace between Germany and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union and Japan were not at war with each other until AFTER the first atomic bomb was dropped.
Gen Tojo was replaced in 44 with the new prime minister after Saipan, with the new guy claiming that the Philippians would be the decisive battle and he was replaced by another who claimed that the decisive battle would be Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
When Japan did first try to see if the Allies were willing to talk they had a laundry list of demands that included keeping some of the islands and parts of China that they had taken. They also did not want the allied powers occupying Japan. Nor were they willing to talk about war crimes trails. They were told "unconditional surrender". When they again sent out peace feelers they again had demands.
The one big thing here is that they didn't offer peace. They were poking around trying to find out what they would get out of it.
So the claim that Japan was ready to negotiate in 43 isn't true or entirely true. Japan never thought they could defeat us. They thought that they could grab some islands, especially ones that had natural resources, and that we would sue for peace allowing them to keep what they had captured. So they would have agreed to peace on their terms in 42. Their peace feelers in early 45 would not have seen the occupation of the home islands, war crimes would not have been addresses and a few other items that we were after, like the end of militarism and disarmament.
As far as memorial day is concerned. It is not intended as a day to honor veterans. Nor is it a day to remember grandma. It is designated as a day to honor those who have fallen fighting for our country.
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