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Re: Navy confines all sailers to the their base


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Posted by oldtanker on June 07, 2016 at 22:41:01 from (66.228.255.59):

In Reply to: Navy confines all sailers to the their base posted by 37Chief on June 06, 2016 at 19:53:39:

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JD if you go back through history and look at it rapes have occurred on the battlefield to include member of US forces. There were many cases in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. The US military most often handled them and they just didn't make headline news stories. Plus many US service members have been tried and convicted of rapes while serving as occupation forces in Germany, Italy and Japan after WWII was over, again handled by the military. On another point the Brits complained about US troops in combat drinking way too much and way too often. Seems that as they moved through Europe many US soldiers would booze it up as front line troops if they found booze in buildings they had just captured. The Brits thought that was pretty dangerous. I will agree that the guys in the bush in Viet Nam didn't see much in the way of booze cause there just wasn't any.

Plus for a long time limited drinking on duty was allowed by regulation clear up into the early 80's even though most commanders could and did ban that. But my first tour in Germany 76-78 we were allowed to consume 2 12 OZ beers with lunch. Thing was you had to go off post to eat. When I was a kid the NCO clubs in the 60's was open for lunch and sold beer starting about 1100 hours. I remember my dad complaining about that because he though it was wrong.

Someone in the early 80's claimed that the military fostered a culture of drinking and to a certain extent it did. Unit parties were drunk fests with enough beer to get everyone drunk. Saw that many time with my own eyes. In my early career I was about the most sober person in the platoons that I was in. Not because I'm a great guy or against drinking but because I was married with kids and they had to come first and did, that didn't leave a lot to drink on. But I was one of the very few. Heck back in the 70's sometimes it seem that if you didn't have a DUI you were not one of the "boys". By the late 80's it was common to kick guys out of any rank for an alcohol related incident. And we did! Units that returned from Iraq and Afghanistan had unbelievable alcohol related incidents and DUI's shortly after they returned. By 05 it was common for units to get back and be locked down the first 2-3 weeks to keep em from getting in trouble downtown or DUI's. Yea they could have booze in the barracks but they couldn't go "down range". The bad part there is a unit's DUI rate can and will reflect on a commanders career.

Rick


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