Posted by Geo-TH,In on July 13, 2016 at 13:52:44 from (172.78.85.171):
In Reply to: OT Heat pump posted by Fred Werring on July 13, 2016 at 11:21:23:
Fred, You are lucky to get 20 years out of a HP. If you google the life of a HP the average is 15 years.
Something else to think about is your old system was an R22. No longer available. R22 was tried, proven, been around for decades. So don't judge today's HP by what you had for 20 years, mistake.
Alternative freons are constantly changing. Seems like after patients run out, they come up with a new Freon formula.
The newer refrigerants run at extremely high pressures which means more likely to have leaks.
I know the owners of two HVAC business in Terre Haute. One guy refuses to install HP and the other one who has been business for 35 years recently decided to install them.
I worked my way through college as a commercial heating and air mechanic. Back them the term HVAC wasn't invented yet.
I talk to the two owners in TH and ask them will the savings really pay for the HP in it normal life. The 35 year old business, just rolled his eyes and shook his head no. He reply was that what people want, so I install them.
If you are happy with a HP, then you are convinced they are great.
I'll make anyone a deal. If they think a HP will pay for itself and save money, then I'll let them install one in my house and I'll pay them just the savings for the next 20 years. They have to pay repair cost. Do I have any takers on this once in a life time deal? No HVAC business in TH will take me up on the deal.
My central AC is a 12 seer, installed in 2000. R22 system and never the first service call. I think the going rate for 30# of 22 is over $600. Just in case, I have 30# bottle in garage. Not sure if I can still get a compressor.
I don't think the added cost of a GEO will pay dividends either. Like most green energy, you will get a tax break which may or may not be to your advantage.
Keep in mind, Freon is changing all the time. Who is to say 10 years down the road you need a new compressor and you are told, sorry you need to change everything.
Big investment and big risk.
I tried to talk my boy who lives in Avon, In, not to get a new HP. His was 14 years old, making a racket but still working. Well he spent $7800 on a new state of the art Trane. didn't save him a dime on his electric bill. Year later, boy said he wished he had installed a gas furnace. I didn't tell him, told you so, but really wanted to.
I'll never invest in a HP. Ask your finical advisor if he would, mine won't. Investment vs return. George.
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