Posted by wisbaker on July 21, 2016 at 19:04:04 from (173.26.84.185):
In Reply to: synthetic oil posted by nhbalerman on July 20, 2016 at 18:55:26:
My Mother passed a year ago last February, I inherited her 2011 Toyota Camry. Toyota says if I use 0W-20 (synthetic) I should change oil every 10,000 miles, If I use a 5W-20 (synthetic or conventional) I should change oil every 5,000 miles. I use the synthetic stuff, if I think Toyota is to stupid to know what kind of oil and how often I should change it I don't think I want one of their cars.
I used to be a thick oil freak, from 30,000 to 180,000 miles the only oil I used in our Accord was a Castrol 5W-50. I don't spring for the synthetic stuff much any more for it although once or twice I have used Delo 5W-40 in it. I try to stay with a name brand and will use a 5W-30 (recommended) or a 10W-40 as it'll have 299,000 miles at the next oil change, and yes I will do a 30,000 mile service to include trans oil, filters, plugs and set the valves. I'll also bet it ran 5,000 miles on the oil change with out topping it off.
We also have a Dodge Grand Caravan, to make a long story short I missed an oil change and it went 10,000 miles before I knew it, it's used a quart every 2,000-2,500 since then. I use the manufacturer's recommended 5W-20, but I try to stay with a better brand like Castrol or Valvoline although the oil for the next oil change is in the van's shop bin and it's "parts master" (made by Ashland Oil Company (the folks that bring you Valvoline)
When I cared for the county's motor pool I had the oil changed at 3,000. Several reasons, if we couldn't get a hold of the car for a while we were still with in the manufacturer's recommendations. We washed cars at every oil change and the labor to get the car to the oil change and wash was almost as much as the service cost itself. With a licensed mechanic looking them over every 3,000 miles it made it harder for the union to pin a grievance on me for vehicle related issues and heavens forbid if anyone got injured in one of our cars the inspection records might help us beat any negligence claims on the part of the county by the injured.
I was taught that oil and grease are cheap and even expensive oil and grease are cheaper than parts, but you still need to do some diligence on your part. I wrenched at a golf course when I was in college, the Greenskeeper that hired me was buying this super duper high dollar red oil (supposedly the red oil was easier to see on grass in case you had a leak) The first yearr I was there I replaced a lot of engines. The second year I was there and I know the oil changes were kept up I still replace a lot of engines. At the end of the second year we got a new Greenskeeper and we decided to switch to Rotella oil from our local distributor, it was about 1/2 the price and I didn't change as many engines (the idiots in the pro shop still burnt up the engine in their truckster and Sand Pros were hopeless until Toro upped them from a K181 to a K241 engine). Another benefit with the Rotella is when I had an engine problem once I showed the dealer's service manager the oil change records and told 'em we were using Rotella our warranty claims got paid, usually pretty quick. I still think the guy that hired me was getting a kick back on the oil.
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