Hey no problem, I don't have any idea what's going on in MI either! Still with a budget of over 10 K I'd be hard pressed to pass up on a 5K Ford 4000 over a much cheaper Farmall 400 especially when the utility style will have a lower center of gravity for the task he's planning on performing. Up here in MN we had plenty of poor farmers too. They didn't have the extra cash to add on a 3 point! In fact a lot didn't buy the optional 2 point. Most of those guys failed for various reason during the 80's farm crisis. But the number of 400 and 450 around here is good. Quick CL search 200 miles out shows several at pretty reasonable prices. Funny thing is of the ones listed 2 out of 3 are bare back. So in that case a guy is looking at 1K or so to add a 3 point. The problem here is finding implements for them. Quick Hitch implements are few and far between and expensive for what they are. Most of the drawbar stuff has gone to the scrappers years ago. Then comes the hydraulics and loader. That Ford 4000 is going to have faster cycle times than a 400. Not important to everyone but it is to some. And I'm not saying the 400 is a bad tractor. For what the OP states I don't think it's the best tractor given his budget.
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