Do you think any of the gun related deaths in the UK an Australia are suicides? If they are it is reasonably safe to assume they occur at a similar rate...
But, lets just pretend that there are zero suicides in the UK and Australia. The estimates that I have seen is that suicides account for 60% of firearm deaths. Just for the sake of this discussion, let's assume that we are not concerned about the people who commit suicide, or their friends and family.
The firearm related death in the US is 10.54 per 100,000, but 60% of those are suicides so the firearm death rate we care about is . In the UK it is 0.23 per 100,000. If we care about is 4.22 per 100,000. That is still 18X the rate in the UK and 4.5X the rate in Australia.
Data shows that roughly 50% of all suicides are committed with a gun. It also shows that 22% of American adults own a gun. That seems to indicate a much higher incidence of suicides by gun owners. The math shows the suicide rate among gun owners is a bit over 350% higher than Americans who do not own a firearm.
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