I was wondering the same thing. Have never known an area where stopping other than #1 position was considered stopping for the red light, WITH THE EXCEPTION of the first car actually coming to a stop IN the intersection (after the white line, if there is one).
Also, if there is a white line and a stop sign, the actual stopping point is not the stop sign, but the white line. Unfortunately, have seen many such intersections where I have to come to a stop at the line, then creep forward as I could not see one or both directions. Anything after the line is considered being in the intersection.
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