Re: pump shop rip off

Posted by The tractor vet on June 21, 2018 at 09:06:46 from (104.179.81.68):

In Reply to: pump shop rip off posted by Al Baker(pumpman) on June 20, 2018 at 14:13:37:

YEp , Pump shops sure do like to HOSE you , been down this route way tomany times . My first lesson on and injection pump was my first tractor . I had bought a Farmall 450 D many years back that had a miss , fart and a back fire issue , yep diesels can back fire . Not knowing the I H diesel vary well at the time i had the area's best I H mechanic come out one Saturday afternoon to help me find the problem . Well he fiddled with it and came to the conclusion that i had a cracked head . You could not tell anything about the head as the valve cove was leaking really bad in all four corners . So the head camed off and off to a machine shop that i used for many of the let's go fast engines . Once they took the steam cleaner to it even before they hot tanked it thy found a brand new head but they did and old fashioned pressure check and found no cracks but they did touch up all valves . So after getting it baqck together and running it still missed, farted and back fired . So onto the injectors and they checked out good . So that left the pump and off to the pump shop . Dropped the pump[ off and Fat Dave called me telling me how bad the pump was and it needed this and that and we were looking at 650 bucks in 1969 money . Well come Friday morning i called FAT Dave and asked if the pump was done and he told me that it was going to be no less then two weeks before he got all the parts. Told him that i needed that pump by Five and was coming after it . I got there about five till and he started well it's apart , told him well them put it back together as it was somewhat running when i brought it in and i need the tractor this weekend . I was a tad hot under the collar . He goes back in the back and in about ten min. he comes out with the pump and it was NOT tore down and still as dirty as it was when i brought it in . I don't like being lied to . Took the pump back to the fqarm and put it back on and ran the tractor . Sunday evening i took the pump back off and was going to take it back to him on Monday morning . As i was headed for his shop i was coming up on the local I H industrial dealer and pulled in and went inside and i qasked the girl at the main desk if they had a pump man and she said yes and to go into the back and see Cal. I had the pump in hand when i walked into his Cave and he was setting on his stool running a pump on the stand . he stopped what he was doing and took the pump looked at it whipped off the tag and pointed to a YELLOW pump setting on the shelf . I asked HOW MUCH and he said Don't know . Well hiow am i suppose to PAY for it if you DON'T Know . He said what ever it takes to fix your pump is what that one cost . Ok but that one is YELLOW and mine is RED and goes on a FARM tractor . He then tells me that OH NO your pump is off a T D 14 but it will work on the D 281 . I asked him if he could just fix mine as the pain would match when i put it back on and nobody will get upset at the tractor pulls and clam i was cheating . Cal said Ok i will fix yours and make it even better , I.ll call ya when i am done . So i go on to work and figured that he would call in a couple days . WRONG at 11:45 he calls me and said your pump is done , i about fell on the floor , ok HOW much and call said ya owe me 112,78 . Now keep in mind here Fat Dave told me 650 and two weeks to get the parts . As he told me that the Plunger was shot and the cam was toast and all the seals . what cal replaced was the Cam bushings that were shot because of fuel leaking into the crank case due to bad seals on the fuel pump plus the work he did on the gov. as he changed the fly weights to loader weights ground out the case for the rack to move back more and also to get more RPM's took the time to mark the screws for different settings of fuel , First mark was for STOCK setting second mark was for a WEEEEEE bit more then Stock setting and the Third mark was for lets clear out every skeeter in two countys . and made peck marks for RPM settings . I have come now to use just one guy but like he said prices have gone up for him and IF you need a head it will hurt and there will be no more 250 to 500 dollar rebuilds anymore . I looked into setting up a GOOD pump shop many years back and to do this even back then buy the time you get set up for a one horse operation you would be looking at a quarter Mil. Pump stands are not cheap plus all the accessory that are needed and if you want to do pulling pumps the run of the mill stands will not do them . I know what the guy i use has tied up in his new shop he built thirty years ago and what he gave for his new stand .

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