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Posted by Lee Forbush CHAMPION SPARK PLUGS ARE BETTER IN SOME TRACTORS THAN OTHERS!!!!!!!! on November 22, 1998 at 12:22:40:
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Champion Spark Plugs posted by Lee Forbush CHAMPIONS WORK BETTER IN SOME TRACTORS THAN OTHERS on November 22, 1998 at 12:19:06:
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: : : : : : I don't understand this "Don't use this or that" business. Champion, AC, any name brand plug is as good quality as the next. The problems I've encountered over the past decades have been 1) using the wrong plug for the application, 2) incorrect installation, and 3) something else is wrong.
: : : : : : Remember, these manufactorers didn't last this long by making junk.
: : : : : : In answer to the first question, the number sounds more like an AC than a Champion number (maybe a typo?). Check with your favorite parts store to find a current plug number, by application! Crossing old to new numbers, especially between brands, can be hazardous to ones' health and wealth. I've spent many hours trying to cross-match parts only to find that they don't cross back the same way. : : : : : Champion's are junk. I have had trouble with them in the past. Put AC's in and everything was honkey dory : : : : I have had a lot of problems with champions the last few yeaes.
: : : : If you run with no load they cause problems.
: : : : I use A.C.instead.
: : I didn't want to start a controversy but I think there are enough guys that have had a bad experience with Champion plugs. Everybody has their preference, but mine won't be Champions.
: : : This why I won't use Champions in my tractors: Last spring while I was shopping for a set to fit my JD4020 (the used equipment dealer had installed very cold LP plugs in a gas tractor), I found this note in the Champion catalog about the D series plugs used in old tractors. "These plugs are equipped with a series gap so they have a hotter spark to fire better in oil." My engine doesn't use oil so that's not a needed modification. But they offer no choice. I bought AC. I won't buy Champion tractor plugs. While this series gap may be a help on an really bad oil pumper its a detriment to a good engine and precisely counter to the work I also did that making a set of plug wires with copper cores and with the connectors soldered to the wires to ELIMINATE the extraneous series gaps of the carbon wires that were on the tractor (and causing intermittant running!). : : : The carbon wires were so bad, it made the 4020 buck in 8th gear moving down the road at 17 mph. That's what I call ROUGH running! : : : Gerald : ::::::::::I have a Case DC and LA that can run on nothing but champions. All the other plug manufacturers foul out because their electrode is so heavy, it will not stay hot enough to burn off impurities that foul it out. I have failed to be able to pull because the other plugs will foul out the same day i install them!!!!!!!!
Lee Forbush collector of Case Tractors and Equipment and supporter of larger champion spark plugs.
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