Posted by oldtanker on October 01, 2018 at 22:08:19 from (66.228.255.59):
In Reply to: The Future Of Farming posted by vicinalvictor on October 01, 2018 at 06:22:47:
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but according to the US government only 16% of American families are below the poverty line. That's the line where you qualify for assistance (SNAP, rent assistance, heat assistance, free lunch's at school and so on). Really when you look at how large the population is that's amazing. But it's no where near the 50% mark some people would have you believe. Now if you want to look at people using subsidized transportation look at AMTRAK. Not all of it, just the only profitable line (still subsidized) from Boston to DC. Average rider makes 6 figures, that's right, over 100,000 a year. That line runs from DC to Philly, Newark, NYC and Boston. Bet you can't guess which party the vote for living in that area on average? The way it's set up there is no option to pay the full price. So you really can't label them as being below the poverty line. In fact light rail is subsidized by local, sate and the federal government. That runs inside the city. Average rider in Chicago makes at least 60K. And it's like that clear across the country.
All I am saying is that the small farm is about to move onto the endangered list. Most small farmers I know (less that 1000 acres) are not big enough for 2 families as far as income goes. So JR has no choice but to get a job. Once he gets married it's over. Mom and dad are most likely going to sell the farm as their retirement plan. See that here all too often. Of if they keep some it's a 10 acre farmstead. Most younger people today are just going to pass on it. They want to spend off hours with family and friends. Not out fighting the weather on a wore out tractor trying to get crops in. Just because they don't want to live/work like that doesn't make farmers better or worse. Just means everyone is different.
Average size farm in SD? 1400 acres. MN? Close to 350. ND? 2100. The guys around here in MN where I live? None I know of are as small as 350 and a full time farmer. Heck it's gotta be close to 1000 before kids are even interested in staying.
I know there are a lot of folks who wish the BTO's would go away. Well there are here to stay. Few year back (13-14 years) a nephew and his wife looked at buying a farm. They came up with a business plan and went to the bank. Bank was willing to go with them only if they were going to milk a minimum of 80 cows. Nephew said there was no way he could take care of 80 cows, replacement stock and crops and do it right. The debt load right now would kill them! Don't matter, a crushing debt load will kill a small time operator or a BTO.
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