Posted by paul on December 05, 2018 at 12:37:09 from (76.77.197.114):
In Reply to: Re: GMO non GMO corn posted by paul on December 05, 2018 at 08:39:42:
In the 40s and 50s everyone had a garden and tended to buy from a relative chickens and a side of beef or what not.
In the 60s and 70s we went urban, and lot of science and technology opened up the world of processed food. It was good and clean and quick to prepare, folks were moving to town and to apartments without gardens, food was cheap to buy.
In the 80s we looked around and said hum, this easy to make processed food is kinda empty, and full of sugars and salt and no fiber; it’s exactly what we like to eat but it seems it’s not so good for is? Hum.
So groups formed up and wanted a closer connection to the old ways of food, and groups formed up and wanted healthier foods.
All of which is great, a good direction to move!
The food processors and the grocery stores looked around, and gulped. Their business model was to make processed cheap foods and sell it based on taste and convenience and use cheap ingredients. So they think tanked it, and decided they would join in on the ‘foodie’ market. They threw farmers under the bus, and started advertising their gmo free and organic labels as high-dollar, “better” foods. With really big markups, so they continued to get the money flow.
Smaller farmers also joined in on the money flow, and started direct selling their produce on street corners. A small segment of the population is able to reach those corner markets, and are affluent enough to afford buying there.
Over time, the marketing turned to propaganda, and the good simple ideas of direct marketing and interacting between the farmer and the home cook turned into a mistrust and bad science and propaganda of putting down good safe food, to build up a high dollar fake market.
The pendulum swings, and as bad as the processed sugar junk of the 70s was, the current propaganda of gmo/organic is is equally bad.
Farmers make good clean pure food stocks.
How long you store it, how much you process it, and how ‘easy’ you want it to cook is what turns good wholesome food all us farmers produce into slop and bad junk.....
It’s not whether it is organic or gmo free. Those are silly, non issues.
But, the current premium prices the organic crowd enjoys depends upon building up some precieved difference to consumers. Traditional Farmer illustrates that very well here.
Folks wanted cheap easy quick food that appealed to their salt and sweet cravings.
We figured out that isn’t the best long term.
That’s a good thing. People wanting to be more in touch with where their food is grown, how it is processed, that is a good thing.
Clearly any thinking person can see farming organically is less sustainable than regular farming. That isn’t the message sold to consumers tho. Insects and weeds will rob some yield. Soils will erode more because more tillage is needed. Soils won’t be fertilized as well to create healthy crops because you can’t spoonfeed organic fertilizers, you can’t easily add just the one or two basics needed. You get a whole bucket of manure and slop it on with maybe not quite enough N and way too much P from the manure. Some of these organic nutrients need to be hauled in a long ways, mines in Chile or ocean seaweed needs to be hauled to the middle of the country. Manure comes from other farms to build up a poor organic soil. Organic farms are always stealing nutrients to build up their ground from others.
Then there is the danger of the pathogens in the manure transferring to the produce. Not a big deal in grains, but we can see the issues every year with root crops and leafy raw vegetables. Exposure to the manure load has a risk.
I really love the corner farmers markets, and families again interested in knowing the farmer and where their food comes from. Those are good trends.
The principles of organic production never really went away, and the technology of the last 20 years has us spoon feeding nutrients exactly as needed to the he crops, no waste, little extra running off the land. Weed control lets us do far less tillage. Cover crops are one of the hottest topics in conventional farming these days, manure management on conventional farms with a little commercial fertilizer to balance the soil out properly.
Nothing wrong with organic, nothing wrong with conventional. I think they are much more the same than different. Only difference is price, and the organic crowd seems bent on keeping their profits by making up stuff about their ways being ‘better’, when clearly they are not.
Too bad the propaganda mill has gotten so out of whack. It has soured a lot of us on what it used to mean to be organic.
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