Re: Re: Re: Farmall 856 vs JD 4020D

Posted by JD70Jim on August 15, 2001 at 08:04:30 from (64.197.39.125):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Farmall 856 vs JD 4020D posted by IH1 on August 14, 2001 at 21:27:22:

Well IH1,
The 86 & 88 series IHs and the 30 & 40 series Deeres you mention are considerably newer than the 20 series Deeres and the 56 series IHs. They also COST more than the earlier tractors. A $28,000 John Deere 4440 or even a $20,000 IH 5088 is out of sight for a smaller hobby farm! My operation allows for $10,000 tractors, and not much more. And I say "allows", because I could certainly get by with my 730 or a 560 if I had to. I'm not in it to make money, really. It is more of my "HOBBY".

You should read G Taylor's post. You never really do see Semi's of this age out on the interstate, attempting to make a living. If you DO see an old semi tractor, chances are it is pulling a farmer's grain truck or hauling his hogs to market. Not hauling freight comercially/

It is the same way with these old tractors. I do know a number of local farmers who use tractors of the vintage you mentioned. Usually, they have ONE tractor that is in the 10-15 year old range and a bunch of older tractors of varying sizes. In order to run old machinery, you simply have to have more of it, than you would have otherwise. OLD machinery is theoretically more subject to breakdowns. With more acres to cultivate, a breakdown at a critical time will cause severe difficulties whether it is planting or harvesting time. Sometimes, due to the weather, the window of oportunity can be small, and when that is the case, the machine NEEDS to be working. This is the reason for newer over older machines. This theory even works at my level. My baler used to be an old 14T and it worked for 30+years. Eventually, repairs became too common, so now I have a 337. Still not new, but a whole lot better than the 14T. Hard to justify the expense? What is the cost of a cutting of hay lost due to mechanical breakdown at a critical moment.

Perhaps a farmer working 1000 acres wont have a $100,000 tractor. Most of the 3000 acre farmers DO and the size of the farms keeps growing.

Back to the original point. for a small size place like mine (or yours) ANY 100 hp tractor is just overkill, and the time differnce between a 4020 and an 856 for plowing 80 acres is a coffeebreak. My statements recomending what to buy are still valid.

I think you already had your mind made up, mr IH1, and were hoping to get justification and encouragement for your preference. Enjoy your Red tractor. I enjoy my Green one.

JD70Jim

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