Posted by oldtanker on October 05, 2019 at 21:11:08 from (66.228.255.203):
In Reply to: Steel Mill closes posted by John in La on October 05, 2019 at 03:09:55:
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I disagree Bruce. If a guy farming today doesn't understand that over production is killing them and KEEPS over producing then it's on them. Now is when they should be cutting back. You think Ford keeps building cars when they ain't selling or do they idle lines and whole plants? Heck a few years ago corn hit record prices. Did the farmer keep production steady or did they do JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO and up production. According the the USDA the following spring in the US 33,000,000 acres were taken out of CRP and put back into production. Just who held a gun to the farmers head and made him do that? Or was that sheer GREED? The government didn't do that.
Now I not saying that in the past the government didn't support over production. They did. But the government isn't buying up the surplus like they use to. So that's been gone for some time. Heck why should a person have to pay for groceries twice? One at the store and every year at tax time?
Remember back when corn hit 5 bucks in the 90's? I was driving between KS and west MN 1-3 times a month. Often while in west MN I'd go to Fargo. Areas that you never saw corn? Were planted in corn the next spring. The wheat fields of KS were in corn too. Come the next fall at harvest corn was 1.95. My BIL lacked enough storage and had 7,000 bushels he had to sell. Man was he mad. Lot of farmers were mad. But no one told them to plant more then either.
Look at the banks. Government said they were too big to fail. Bailed em out. People are still angry about that. If that were to happen again?
As far as farmers? Farmers in the US have been complaining about prices ever sense the US government cut supports. So to the average Joe citizen who doesn't know any farmers thinks all they do is whine. And guess what? When it's in the news? They show farms with millions of dollars of equipment. Nice house. Nearly new shiny pickup. And the the farmer with all this stuff complaining about not making enough. It's sad but the news media plays farmers like a cheap violin! You ain't winning over the city folks.
But a farm is a business. Country living is a lifestyle. If you treat farming like a lifestyle it's going to bite you.
What bad about this is I saw the difference between farm and city life back in 71 and 72 when we moved from the suburbs in NJ (most of our neighbors worked in NYC or Newark) to rural MN. Here farmers and their families did without stuff cause it wasn't needed. In NJ if you wore hand me downs you were going to be picked on. Out here hand me downs were normal. In NJ almost everyone I knew had 21" color TV's in 71. Out here 13" black and white with rabbit ears was the norm. The farm family didn't know what it was missing. Today everyone knows. And they want want everything. Even farmers. So subsistence living is no longer an option. That means the farm has got to make money like a business so that the farmer and the family can live like the rest of the country. Got because I said so. But because that's what today's farmer wants.
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