Posted by paul on September 22, 2020 at 11:02:12 from (76.77.197.114):
In Reply to: Re: Ford posted by Jegs on September 22, 2020 at 07:41:36:
I wrote you a long, 10 paragraph reply, but it was censored. Either a machinery company name triggered the censor, or I misspelled something and it came out bad.
Anyhow, I gotta go do hay. No time to sort through. Dang, I was kinda proud of what I wrote, as far as I intended.
JD tends to license technology from others and stick their name on it, so no, they don’t make stuff for others. They are buyers, not sellers, of concepts.
Case and IHC got merged then added Steiger and New Holland and some other smaller bits and is now owned by Fiat. Case and IHC got swallowed up in bad business choices in bad economic times, Ford/NH got sold off as a cash leverage to support a very weak auto company in hard times. Together they are a bit too redundant, and struggle to make dealer networks work out. Case and Ford were weak on anything other than tractors, International was weak on business management, all struggled with the 1980s ecconomy.
Agco merged up about 20 different lines of equipment, most of the smaller weaker ones from the 1970s like White, Oliver, MM, MF, Allis Chalmers, and so forth. A lot of very good companies and designs there, but just underfunded. They are struggling on how to go forward with it all. Lots of good dealers near here, but I understand they are weak in some areas for dealer support? They now try to push a European type design of machinery and tractors into the USA, which hasn’t been real successful. In my area MF was never very popular, so it is a dead brand; and it appears the brand Agco is trying to push into as the main label. That’s going to be tough.
Cat got into the ag business and got out, called Lexion and run by Claas now, they tend to hop in and out of the USA every 10-20 years. Pretty much only tractors and combines, Claas has forage choppers and balers as well I don’t know how they sort out their dealer support on all that.
Kubota made a big push into more ag stuff, and bought up a few hay and tillage companies and designed bigger tractors. But their big tractors weren’t quite what the USA is used to for a bigger tractor, and so have been a little quiet as they try to figure out a good path through the economic struggles of ag. I believe they intend to be around and a force in USA ag, but they are in a bit of recovery mode.
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