Posted by DR. EVIL on July 29, 2021 at 08:16:27 from (174.192.69.186):
In Reply to: Re: Worst ever 2? posted by NY 986 on July 29, 2021 at 07:05:57:
NY 986 - At least IH never stooped so low as to put a Detroit Diesel in anything they built, except it was an option in their Pay Hauler off-road dump trucks and available in most of their bigger truck models along with CAT and Cummins. Like their first big 4wd, the 4300, the DT-817 6 cyl diesel was a really good engine. I agree that IH tried to do too much with the DT-466, they needed a newer version of a 650-750 cid engine for the biggest combines, big 4wd tractors, and since engines and bull dozers were built in the same plant, just different sides of the aisle, the construction group could have used the BIG engine they never built. They did build a DT-530, and punched it out to 570, but still too small. A BIG CAT or Cummins should have been put in the 4586 & 4786, and the DT-466 tried REALLY hard but was too small, stressed too hard in the 4386. The DV-800 was probably a better truck engine than tractor engine. It's actually surprising how many big 4wd's were built with a 903 Cummins. I put around HALF a Million miles on semi-tractors ordered out by Deere's captive contract carrier, They were not that bad of engine, burned a lot of fuel, I would have liked at least a ten-speed behind it, the 6-speed Spicer had some BIG gaps. I'm amazed at the hate for the 460/560, and what kind of Hot-Rod Dumb skull ran them that destroyed the rearends? Neighbor across the road farmed 320 acres with JUST a 560 gas, his only other tractors was a Farmall Cub and two 8N fords, only thing the 560 didn't do was wear a 2M-H picker every fall picking/shelling corn. He used an IH 203 combine. He did buy a W-9 to ease the workload and get things done more timely. Dad's '63 4010-D only farmed 200 acres, and any day I was able to run that danged thing back to the house was a good day. It was amazing how many times we had to stop plowing, planting, cultivating, combining, and work on that stinking tractor. Most of the 4020's in the neighborhood were decent tractors, but we had the ONLY 4010. The original owner took the leaf spring out of the injection pump, tried grinding the ends to STIFFEN the spring so it made more HP. What a moron! He ground the ends different lengths, it ran wide open on 3 cylinders, and about half-throttle on the other 3, would have dyno'd about 65-70 hp, if our dealers ACE diesel tech would have dyno'd it. Dad had a real pump expert make a house call one evening. It was making 100-105 hp, until it blew the headgasket about 50-60 hours later, most were jobs a FARMALL H or M could have done. The engine got a major overhaul that winter.
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