Posted by Case30Deutz06 on August 09, 2021 at 08:04:27 from (146.112.44.80):
In Reply to: deutz tractors? posted by swindave on August 08, 2021 at 16:03:41:
We have 5 of them. Dad bought the first in the late 70's. A 2wd 100 06. He liked it cause it was simple and the price at the time was advantageous. In 1984 added a mfwd 100 06 (were one of first in area with mfwd). In 1990 added a mfwd Deutz-Allis 6260 with loader. In 2002 we traded the original 2wd 100 06 on a 2wd Deutz-Allis 7110. In 2011 we added a mfwd 130 06. Then just last year I bought a 2wd Deutz 68 06.
No major issues. We did have the 100 06 overhauled 10 years ago after 10,000+ hours. You want to keep the cylinder fins clean or they will run hot. But that is usually not much of an issue as it is usually caused by a leak on top the engine collecting dust (fuel leak or valve covers). Keep the leaks under control and you are fine. I have many more problems with keeping our water cooled machines cool on a hot day! The main advantage of the Deutz tractors (at least ours) is the synchronized transmissions, especially the 100/130 06 setup. Being able to shift through every gear on the go in the field or on the road is something that I take for granted until I drive another brand tractor.
We like the old 06's better. Crude in some areas, but as tough as nails. A neighbor has a 80 06 and refers to it as the German tank for a reason. The newer DX/Deutz-Aliis's are not quite as tough in my opinion. The Deutz-Allis 6200 series seems good. I would avoid a 7120, 7145, or DX160 because those transmissions are not strongest.
In the late 70's and early 80's quite a few small dealers cropped up here in Wisconsin, and even some bigger dealers picked them up as a side brand. I say the biggest mistake Deutz made was buying Allis. Them most of those existing dealers quit and the former Allis-Chalmers dealers were selling all of them. The fall of Deutz-Allis was for mulitple reasons. Among them unfavorable exchange rates in late 80's early 90's driving up their prices. Also, Deutz refused to truly study how Americans used their tractors. They were ok before they bought Allis as somewhat of a side brand, but after buying Allis is made them a more major player having to compete with the major names. With that said, many of the dairy farms here with Allis-Chalmers tractors did start buying Deutz-Allis tractors and seemed to like them from those I have talked to. Then Deutz sold off Deutz-Allis to AGCO in 1990 and they eventually dropped Deutz-Allis. But Deutz did still make their own tractors for European and other markets, although in 1995 Deutz (the engine company) sold off Deutz tractors (Deutz-Fahr) to Same, who still owns them today. Deutz-Fahr tractors (and parts for the new and old tractors) are now sold in the USA at dealers again through the distributor PFG America.
We have a real good small Deutz dealer here in Wisconsin that has sold them since the 70's and still sells them new. Through them, parts are no issue at all. He offers real Deutz parts as well as gets aftermarket parts direct from Europe. He also has a large scrap yard.
We also have a Deutz-Allis discbine, rake and little square baler. The rake and discbine are semi-retired (backups), but I still use the Deutz-Allis square baler. Just did 2100 second crop bales with it. I consider it the world's fastest little square baler. You can haul with the thing. We have an inline Hesston little square baler also, but typically use the Deutz because you can go at least 2 gears faster baling with it versus the Hesston. I will say the Hesston does always make a nice bale and there are some advantages to the inline design.
Sorry for the long writeup, but since you asked I likely have more knowledge and experience then most on this site on the topic.
Have to get going now....have some work to do with my Deutz tractors today!
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