Re: Survey/Field notes question

Posted by TomIn on January 27, 2022 at 22:11:37 from (23.118.149.246):

In Reply to: Survey/Field notes question posted by TomA in CA on January 27, 2022 at 11:27:50:

I'm a geezer in Indiana, and will toss in my two cents worth of comments.

The online maps you see are part of a Geographical Information System (GIS). These are created by taking a series of aerial or satellite photos that have been pieced together to cover a larger area. I am guessing that many GIS's are based on Google Earth. There is some degree of distortion created in this process which translates photos of a round globe into a flat map. The various lines you see imposed on the aerial photos are added from a variety of different sources using a variety of methods by a variety of people. When you see lines move, I assume you saying the lines appear to be in different positions relative the aerial photos taken at different time. This may happen because someone changed the gridwork of lines that were superimposed on the aerial photos, or because the unchanged gridwork of lines were superimposed on a different aerial photo (which might have had different distortions) in a slightly different fashion.

A boundary survey is not as simple as it might seem at first blush. A person is likely to think that all a surveyor has to do is to read a single deed and drive stakes in the ground at appropriate places that correspond with the legal description. The surveyor's duty is actually to drive the stakes at what he/she determines to be the boundary of ownership. (Where should the stakes be placed is the adjoining landowner's deed describes the common boundary differently? There may be an overlap or gap between the two properties. What happens when some previous owner of a 1,000 acre ranch sells 500 acres to one party, then sells 550 acres to another party? Many states have laws stating that after a fence has been used as a boundary line for X years without any party objecting, it becomes the property line regardless of the legal descriptions on either deed.) A surveyor acquaintance once told me that he spends more time at the courthouse than he does on the property he is surveying. He defined the number one rule in surveying as It depends. The existence of a fence corner post may take precedence over a legal description. In some states, the payment of property taxes for XX years may determine ownership. Which party has been paying property tax on the barn in question??

The suggestion to create a new property line at whatever location is agreed upon has merit, but still may require a surveyor to write a legal description of this line and satisfy whatever the requirements are in your location.

Many states have (or used to have) what was called a legal survey. The process was basically to identify all parties that may have any interest in the land, get them all to agree to have a survey performed and abide by the results of the survey, then to record the survey. Many surveys are recorded, and many are not. If a survey was made as part of the process of creating a new subdivision in an urban are, it will be recorded. If a rural owner just wants his corners marked for his own use, the survey may not be recorded. I own some land in a small poor rural county. I have been told that all the old survey records were hauled to a landfill decades ago. The best way to determine what is available is to ask the county recorder and/or surveyor. They are more like to have better answers than the members of this forum.

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