Posted by jjchvl on July 09, 2022 at 07:44:44 from (45.46.16.196):
Im new here and to working on farming equipment in general. Im a pretty good nuts and bolts guy but find that working on some of these older pieces of farming equipment takes a little more knowledge and experience than just knowing how to replace components! So heres my current problem and hopefully theres still someone around who knows enough about this stuff to help me.
Ive been banging my head against a Ford 530 baler for going on 3 weeks now. I started out with the baler, completely intact and a spare knotter bar(complete with two rusty but functional knotter mechanisms attached). When I began, the left side, looking from the rear, was knotting. The right side twine disc was not grabbing the string. I was asked to look at it after the owner and a mechanic had already given up trying. Had I known what I know now, I woulda just adjusted the right side needle closer to the twine disc. Im sure that was probably the entire issue. But I didnt know lol! So I made a ton of work out of what shoulda been a small problem by replacing the entire knotting mechanism on the right side with one of the spares(after cleaning it up A LOT and greasing the heck out of it). After that, we broke a needle because I didnt know about timing. Got the needle fixed and needle, piston perfectly timed and now the right side knots 90% of the time but the left side wont push the knott off the bill hook 90% of the time! I never touched the left side lol! Just a bit more info for you here; I have gone through the manual and carefully put everything related to the needles and knotter into the correct specs. In other words, the needles come as close as they are supposed to to the twine discs, and rise up from the tension plate between 1 3/4 to 2 1/4 inches(as stated in the manual). Ive adjusted the twine fingers so that when they begin to turn in, they are less than 1/4 inch from the rising needles. All of that stuff works fine now anyway.
To rectify the right side not knotting 100% of the time I am going to replace all of the very worn and grooved string hole grommets. I believe the string gets caught up in them on occassion, creating too much tension when the bill hook flips and tries to knott. Anyone know the real name for those grommets or where to get them???? Or what can be used in place of them??
To rectify the left side stripper not pushing the knot off the bill hook, Ive replaced the original knife/stripper arm that had a lot of play in it compared to the right side. I tried tapping on the knife/stripper arm with a hammer and gotten it so close to the bill hook that the stripper is just barely touching the bill hook as it passes. Now the knot gets pushed off but only where the stripper comes into contact with it on the bottom of the bill hook. The rest of the knot still wont pull free from the bill hook(most of the time). Now, before anyone yells at me for not trying to adjust the bill hook tensioner before I replaced the knife/stripper arm and all that-I did do that; Both before I replaced the arm and after. I've adjusted, readjusted, and READJUSTED the bill hook tensioner(spent an entire afternoon with a wrench, walking beside the baler round and round a field, adjusting the tensioner half a turn by half a turn). While this does seem to get some results, they arent very consistent at all. By the way, the bill hook jaws look and feel smooth and seem to open and close fine when I work the mechanism by hand. Even so, my next move will be to replace the bill hook with one of the three spares that I have.
1) Concerning the knot not getting pushed off the bill hook on the left side, have I missed something? Is there something else I can do that might help get it to function correctly?
2) Does anyone know the real name for the plastic(bakalite?) string guards so I can search for them on the net? They are the round grommet looking inserts that go in the holes that the baler string threads through out of the string box. There are 8 of them on a 530 I believe. Better yet, does anyone know where I can purchase them? Or a good substitute for them???
Please do not assume that I know anything about what Im doing based on what Ive written above. I had never even touched a baler before all of this. Everything I know about this baler was learned over the past 2 or 3 weeks, one really good YouTube video, reading posts in forums like this, a whole, head banging truck load of trial and error, and practically memorizing the manual. You cannot insult me with advice that you might deem too simple to give lol! Thank you in advance.
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