Posted by used red MN on April 08, 2023 at 10:59:31 from (68.46.31.28):
In Reply to: Re: 6 to 12 posted by Dr. CHIP on April 08, 2023 at 06:11:37:
Incredibly and surprisingly LONG!
You have run into two of the problems that plague this forum. I will admit I am guilty of occasionally fanning the flames of this first one. The problem is that some nit-picky detail takes over a topic and it becomes a ..pee match.. between what is often referred to as the ..correct police.. on here. Then your real question may or may not get answered. You did not ask whether your tractor was originally positive or negative ground you just wanted to know if the generator will charge a 12 volt battery. Hence came the somewhat appropriate question ..what is the number on the generator? (Now here is where problem 2 comes in I will cover in a bit) The question was asked to possibly find out if the generator on your tractor is a 6 or 12 volt unit and sorry beyond a web search which shows no result for the numbers you gave I cannot help you there. Hopefully someone in the know chimes in on that.
To answer your original question I am no generator expert so I polled the internet and a trustworthy reply from a respected YT ..electrical authority.. came up, it is in the older YT post I have linked by John T. He is a retired electrical engineer but has also hung his shingle as a lawyer. So for me that explains the necessity he seems to have to drag out emphasized words in type by repeating the last letter multiple times. You would think a lawyer would know that this adds no real credibility to what he is trying to convey but he does it anyway. In that post his reply essentially says that the 6 volt generator will work for this but it is not designed to. It is a possibility that the fields could burn out because it takes more current or amps powering the fields to make the 6 volt genny produce 12 volts. He goes on to state that he has done this to a couple of his tractors and has not had problems from them.
So you can go with that and get a 12 volt regulator and give it a whirl. The thing about it is that we do not know what the condition of your generator is. (still getting to problem 2 later)
I am a Farmall guy and the tractors I am used to hide the generator up under the hood. And let me say I am far from the ..correct police.. and put function way above form. On your tractor the generator hangs off the side of the engine in broad daylight so concealing a change to it is nearly impossible. Cutting to the chase if you are running 12 volts anyway I would recommend installing an alternator. I have no idea what your intention is with this machine. If you want to pass it off as somewhat original and hate the idea of an alternator hanging off the side then you should continue exploring the generator possibilities. It is just that finding a regulator that works reliably for a generator system in this day an age is becoming very difficult. Alternators are ..plug and play.. and almost have rock solid reliability.
Now to problem two you have encountered and actually going back I see it is not really an issue for your post yet. But here it is anyway, this forum has two viewing platforms ..Modern and Classic.. On Classic new posts come to the top of the page and get
pushed down as other posts come in. Once your post gets pushed to the 2nd page the likelihood of someone viewing it gets quite a bit lower. In ..Modern.. a reply to your topic brings it back up to the top of the page so it keeps an active thread on the first page of topics longer. The point is a lot of long time viewers here who have the greatest knowledge for the most part use Classic. Once your topic gets pushed to page 2 input from them is fairly unlikely. So the gentleman who asked about your generator number may not be back. But if by chance he sees this he will definitely poke it back in my face. Word is that at some point the software platform for the forum is supposed to be upgraded and it will become a normal one view forum again knocking out a lot of the quirks like why I have to ..quote.. something that way instead of using regular quotation marks on my iPhone that simply do not show up when I post what I have typed.
What you need to change on your tractor for 6 to 12 volt conversion is the charging system has to be compatible. Let me add this warning here, if you decide to install an alternator and you use a common automotive type your tractor HAS TO BE NEGATIVE GROUND or you will immediately let the ..goody smoke.. out of your new alternator when connected. Continuing with the 6 to 12 volt items, the ignition coil needs to have the proper resistance in its circuit, meaning a 6 volt coil with a resistor or a 12 volt coil. And the polarity connections to the coil needs to match the battery. The ammeter if equipped needs to have the current flowing through it the proper direction to show a charge when the charging system is working and a discharge when a load like the ignition or lights are turned on with the engine not running. That brings us to the lights if so equipped. All light bulbs need changed to 12 volts, otherwise they will promptly burn out.
What happened with the ..cutting out and dying problem.. you posted about on the Case forum?
Also Dr. interested to know if you are an actual medical doctor and if so how do you come to be interested in old tractors?
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