Re: How much horsepower

Posted by DanielW on August 29, 2023 at 12:00:46 from (24.51.248.85):

In Reply to: Re: How much horsepower posted by waugh621 on August 29, 2023 at 10:09:57:

It should pull it just dandy on flat land. Seven footers are hard to come by and fetch higher prices because lots of small farmers want them. If you're on flat land and the M is in good shape, you can likely pull a 9' no problem and you'll have more used options available and get your cutting done that much faster. Lots of hay has been (and still is) cut with M's. Just watch for hydraulic requirements: Some haybines have a single acting cylinder for the lift, some double. Does your M have hydraulics? If so, single or double acting? Probably double, which would be fine. I've seen some folks get by without hydraulics by using ratcheting jacks/links in place of the cylinder, but it makes for much higher chances of plugging if you can't lift the head, especially as you likely don't have the M&W live PTO kit on the M and will thus run a greater chance of plugging when you clutch.



You can get by without live PTO on a haybine without too much trouble. You can get by without hydraulics, but there will definitely be times you wish you had them. It would definitely be a real struggle to get by without both.



If you're looking at older used haybine, I highly recommend the IH 990 if you can get one in good condition. It would make a good pairing for your M. They can cut at a decent clip, are very reliable, and (most importantly) the rolls are a cross-laminated rubber on steel setup which will last pretty much forever. The old New Hollands etc. are excellent machines, but unless you find one that's been shedded every night, many of them are getting to the age where the rubber's starting to delaminate where it's vulcanized to the steel. My personal opinion (like tractorvet) is to stay away from the Deere 1209 and 1219 even though they're everywhere. They weren't terrible, just a little slower, a little heavier (they hit the rocks a little harder and float a little worse over rough ground), a little more unnecessarily complex, and a little more irksome to work on compared to the NH's or IH 990.



Here's a video of a 990 cutting hay with a ratchet link used in place of hydraulics:

990 Haybine with No Hydraulics





This post was edited by DanielW on 08/29/2023 at 12:15 pm.

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