Posted by dhermesc on December 13, 2023 at 06:23:34 from (12.149.56.202):
In Reply to: A fire is Big news posted by Geo-TH,In on December 13, 2023 at 03:04:10:
A lot also depends on the fire crews responding. The local volunteer fire departments for the most part will not enter an engulfed building unless they know specifically that a person is inside - and there is an idea where that person is. I have no idea what professional crews do with their better training and equipment.
Three years ago our neighbor burned a brush pile - and they did a decent job of it. They let it burn the dried grass around the pile for a fairly good area (about 30 to 50 feet) before putting the grass out then left the pile to burn out - fire was mostly out in 5-6 hours. Three days later we got 40-50 MPH winds blowing through and a stump in the pile lit up again and started a grass fire. This was about a month after we had a 10 day period of sub 10 degree weather with nightly temps well below 0. All the grass was freeze dried and was like have tissue paper covering the ground. The high winds drove it fast and hot. Lots of fence posts that had seen controlled burns for 30-40 years were burned off at the ground.
My next door neighbor lost his house - fire fighters arrived BEFORE the house caught fire but in the high winds small controlled backfires using the roads as fire stops was the only way to stop it. All they did was make sure no one was in it - apparently there was a lot of confusion as he was mostly bed ridden and they kept rechecking the house to make sure he wasn't in a back bedroom or somewhere else. My house was undamaged - but every other building I owned was fire damaged and I had the tires burned off of several pieces of equipment. The neighbor had Farm Bureau insurance - one of the biggest rip off companies I've ever dealt with. They came on to my property without calling me to inspect the damage - then sent me a letter offering $600 as full settlement. In the end they paid me about $7000 and that still didn't cover everything - but to get more would have involved lawyers and suing my neighbor and kinds of headaches. We lost the siding on 2 sides of our garage, the sidewalks were broken were the fire trucks drove across them, one brand new hay shed was fire blackened on the inside where the hay caught fire. It was only saved when my son used a tractor and loader to push a couple hundred burning bales of hay out of the shed then put out the burning timbers with a garden hose, another machine shed had 3 6X6 posts that mostly burned off at the ground and the lower nailer burned off the entire length of the shed, a smaller wooden loafing shed had a wall burned off, the COOP declared our propane tank as compromised and it was yanked. A big pile of hedge posts burned without a trace and I paid the neighbor kid $400 for the tires on his truck that caught fire while he was helping my son get the hay out of the hay shed.
This was just a grass fire but with the high winds and the grass all freeze dried the volunteer fire fighters had all they could handle just keeping it on one section - had it jumped the road it would have been really bad. I counted over 17 local fire trucks running all over the place - and every hydrant I owned had garden hoses hooked to them soaking something. The 6X6 posts on the machine shed were a pain to put out as they were burning internally - one was missed and 4 hours later it restarted and was burning up the wall in the machine shed. I still can't believe they offered $600 - that didn't even cover the hay that was lost. If we had done what was asked of us -evacuate - most likely every building on the place would have been lost including the house.
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