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Posted by paul on September 17, 2003 at 21:49:32 from (209.23.145.69):
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Wee killer question. posted by CNKS on September 17, 2003 at 20:05:57:
To beat this thread into the ground: :) Glysophate lost it's patent a couple years ago (time up). Monsanto invented it & still sells it as Round Up. there are many different variations of Round Up, with different surficants, different additives & helpers for various conditions. The 'home & garden' versions tend to be more watered down, and have less vigorous additives, and tend to be put in smaller bottles and costs signifigantly more per active ingrediant. Several other companies, including some in China, make glyphosate (or, buy it in bulk from Monsanto). They package it with their own additives to allow it to soak into plants, stick to plants, and break down the plant wax quicker. These are close to 1/2 the price of 'about the same thing' from Monsanto. Monsanto offers some quicker action (rainsafe in an hour or so) and respraying garentees if weeds come back for many of their product lines - you pay for this, and might not need it. There are even versions that are safe for spraying directly into water. The cheapest is just straight glysophate (about a 50% active ingrediant) with no additives. Sold in a 20 gallon container, can be just under $20 a gallon. Then you buy the additives you need for your application, and go from there. It's cheaper to make tank mixes if you buy all the parts in bulk. That's a long way to say that there are many different kinds of glysophate. It's just like motor oil - all comes out of the same hole in the ground, and refined the same way. But each company has it's own 'additive package' to make it their own oil. For a use like this, where one is mixing up their own spray, you might as well go to a farm supply place & buy a 2.5 gallon jug of generic glysophate - 41-50% active, for about $30 a gallon. The little gallon or less jug that says 'Roundup' on it will be about double the cost per active ingrediant. Farmers have found that they can increase the rate by 25% and get better coverage with the generic stuff, instead of paying extra & jumping through the hoops of Monsanto's branded Roundup & garentees. At least around here. --->Paul
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