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Posted by Neil on May 23, 2004 at 21:39:59 from (141.156.193.248):
In Reply to: E85 posted by bo on May 23, 2004 at 04:11:25:
Well, I haven't done all that much research on it, but I'd like to chime in too. Based on your research, E85 apparently isn't an economical alternative to gasoline at this point in time (when gas is $2.25/gallon). But, as bad as it is, $2.25/gallon is not what scares me - $4.00/gallon, now that scares me. I don't know what the break-even point is when you figure in extra cost for fuel-flexible vehicles and the reduced fuel economy, but I'm sure hoping (and guessing) that it's less than $4.00/gallon. You propose something to the effect that adding additional fuel to the world market will not bring the price down because the suppliers/processors are just going to continue jacking prices up to whatever the feel like to make however much $$$$ they want. As one poster below alluded to, the only way the suppliers can charge whatever they want is if they are collaborating on the price. Now with gasoline that seems to be a viable option because we rely on foreign suppliers that aren't subject to U.S. anti-trust laws. I don't know for fact (maybe you do), but with ethanol added into the picture the U.S.'s energy needs could be met domestically with oil and ethanol. Assuming that to be the case, our anti-trust laws should eliminate any price-fixing issues. So, I guess what I'm saying is that it is my relatively uneducated guess that, while E85 might not prevent us from suffering a little at the pump, it probably would be a very reasonable alternative if the price of gasoline really got out of hand. As for hydrogen, I don't know much about it. I'm certainly open to the possibility that it might be a better fuel. So long as it performs reasonably close to ethanol/gasoline, any safety issues are reasonable, and it's not to big a PITA, I say fine.
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