Re: Re: When will the EPA madness stop

Posted by Wayne on June 13, 2004 at 20:58:03 from (152.163.253.97):

In Reply to: Re: When will the EPA madness stop posted by Tommy D6-8U on June 13, 2004 at 06:53:51:

What are you saying, that car's aren't already throw away comodities? Have you taken a vehicle that is less than 10 years old in to be repaired lately, or seen all the cars sitting outside repair shops because they aren't worth repairing because of all the computer junk? That was one of my uncles biggesat problems with his shop was what to do with all the cars that were just abandoned with him because... one bad injector was gonna cost $600 to repair because it was all an assembly and you had to replace the entire system.....the ABS computer died leaving a $800 bill....the main computer died to the tune of----...Get The Idea???? What is worse on the environment, having a decently clean burning vehicle that will run for 25 years and just put it's own pollutants in the air, or one that dies and has to be recycled ever 5 years? Heck equipment is already to the point that the customers are having to replace items within a year of owning it that on the older equipment never broke. We've got a customer right now stripping overburden with an old 9570 Northwest crane with a Murphy diesel(70+ year old technology in the engine). He can move 10 times as much material in a day with it and use 1/2 the fuel as the 3 year old 375 CAT excavator they have loading trucks right behind him. Think about how much more the earth is polluted every time that car/tractor/machine gets recycled. There is the fuel left in the tank that may or may not all get reclaimed, the truck that hauls it to the scrap yard, the tractor that moves it around the yard, the new truck to haul off the yard, the power plant powering the shredder to make it suitable to recycle, as well as the smelter to melt it down, the power plant to run the assembly line...and on and on and on......... Up until it got wrecked in a towing accident in 1990 I drove a restored 1955 Chevy 210 2dr wagon full time. I had less than $13,000 in restoring it and had a he-- of a nice car. It had a 283 small block, a 4 speed transmission and a nice highway geared rear. I drove it over 200 miles each way about every other weekend and was consistently getting 22-25 MPG out of it. I could tune it up affordably and regularly myself, and if it broke on the side of the road, which it never did I might ad, I could afford to carry a few odds and ends extra to repair it, or hit a parts store in BFE and get what I needed off the shelf. I even went so far as to have a guy do a emmisions check on it once just to see how it did. What the guy told me based on the results was my car burned cleaner than any most new cars he had seen at the time. Now you tell me why do we need all these high dollar computer controls to do the same thing I was doing with technology that was 30+ years old??? Just something else to think about...

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