Re: OT. Ford Pickup

Posted by Dozerboss on September 13, 2004 at 20:12:06 from (165.247.186.97):

In Reply to: Re: OT. Ford Pickup posted by Jerry Cent. Mi. on September 13, 2004 at 17:39:03:

That's a Ford Powerstroke diesel, All are turbo diesels and it has to be a superduty to have one. A 3/4 ton is an F-250 superduty and an F-350 is a one ton. There's not much differance in GVWR between the 2, even the dual wheel models. You can't get the diesel in the lighter truck. 1 ton and under are considered light duty trucks.

This is my experience: A single rear wheel 3/4 ton superduty Powerstroke diesel will pull that weight with a gooseneck trailer. There are goosenecks rated up to 10 ton-20,000lb GVWR (thats trailer and cargo weight). (funny how they make trailers and hitches that will exceed the vehicles GVWR when loaded.) The highest rated receiver hitch is 14000lb with weight distribution bars for the truck, i know of. Reese makes a rail mounted goose that's rated for 26,000lbs, there's no hole to cut in the truck bed and the rails also accept the fifth wheel RV hitch. When you add the trailer weight and tractors to the truck weight you should be over the gross weight rating. If memory serves with a goose or fifth wheel hitch the GVWR is 22,000lbs for the Superduty. You will need skill to handle the load just like an OTR 18 wheeler needs to handle his rig.

The engine will handle the weight no problem. Problems you will encounter are with braking and over heating the transmission in summer unless your in a cold climate. You can overcome them by adding an exhaust brake and extra cooling for the transmission-a bigger cooler and deeper pan. If you do it, Consider the exhaust brake as essential, whether you choose a low cost electronic unit that uses the existing engine cold start exhaust valve or the more expensive add on unit. The trucks factory brakes will be fine for normal traffic, but not for panic stops if someone fails to yield or for mountain driving. You need an exhaust brake for those situations.

All the triple axle 3 car haulers pulled by 3/4 and 1 ton trucks you see on the road are exceeding the GVWR. They can do it by modifying the truck, Having an extra cab and longer frame, distributing the weight with the extra or heavier duty axles and goose/fifth wheel hitching. The larger 32' and up fifth wheel RV's are right at or slightly over the GVWR of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.

You can pull the weight with the right trailer with that truck. Whether you should is up to you, but for the sake of everyone on the road you shouldn't unless you up grade the brake system and have working trailer brakes.

There maybe a license issue, depending on the gross weight and if you exceed 26000lbs you may need a class B. It depends on your local DMV. I have never gotten a clear answer from mine. You can't pull for hire and exceed 26000lbs, then you need a CDL but you can move your own equipment and exceed 26000lbs. How much hassle you get, if any, from transport police depends on where you live. In my area they leave Farm and car haulers alone and focus on 18 wheelers as long as your load is properly binded. You need chain binders for that weight. Try to find out about licensing before you buy.

Guessing from the size trailer your going to need to haul 12,000 lbs and the truck's weight you should be under 26000lbs. A 10 ton goose is about 5500lb, the truck with cargo about 7500-8000lbs plus your 12000 in tractors. Over the stock GVWR but legal for private use, same as an RV.

The word is the newer 6.0 powerstroke diesels aren't performing as well as the big block 7.3's do.

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